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[–] 61 points 3 years ago (1 child)

In polite company, defending slavery is considered a major character flaw.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Damn if he's so smart why'd he join the losing side, and then lose?

    Lee and every member of the southern aristocracy should have been executed.

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  • [–] 44 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    deganerate

    Bullhorn dogwhistle.

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  • [+] 43 points 3 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    General Grant was not an alcoholic. He drank missing his wife. He never drank while in battle. That's one of many slanders of the Lost Cause that victimizes the South as well as proposes the South to be superior in many aspects.

    Grant was by far the better general. While Lee fought a mostly defensive Virginia campaign, Grant was out completing the North's military objectives in aggressive, modern strategies. His rally and subsequent victory at Shiloh, despite his mistakes. His Vicksburg Campaign that is still studied to this day. Grant's ability to fight the war that Lee could not win when Grant finally took over the army of the Potomac and hounded Lee, when previous generals would turn, until he had nothing but a ragged army.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago

    lol, really is a shame West Point didn't have courses on not being a racist, slavery-defending piece of shit then isn't it?

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  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, if Ulysses S. Grant had a problem, it was that he had no clue how to run a country, but that's every single president

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago

    "unimpeachable character" idk the slaves he was fighting to keep probably had a different take on his character

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    literally who cares about graduating top of the class? pure cope. grant did way the hell better where it actually counts

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago*

    I remember Matt Christman on radio war nerd talking about how all the westpoint grads in the American Civil War were hobbled by their education and were unable to think outside the box strategically, and how guys like Willlich (the German Communist general) was able to shake up the war by bringing over different tactics. He might have been overstating his case a little, but still. It is interesting when people make appeals to shit like "graduated with good marks at the nepotism factory"

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  • [+] 30 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)
    [–] 30 points 3 years ago

    Maybe they should have settled their differences in the octagon then? Can't change history.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago

    i say with absolute certainty the commander and president of the Union could've beaten the shit outta their confederate counterpart barehands

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago

    grant needed none of that fancy book learnin' to kick the shit out of lee

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    confederate defenders stop pretending "defending his home state" is a meaningful distinction from "defending the institution of slavery"

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Is this what people mean when they say the south had "better generals"?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    Yeah and its mostly bullshit. I think part of why some of the northern generals appear worse is because many of them were ideologically against following up victories and capturing the confederate capital. MacClellan the first Commander of the Army of the Potomac was very against it and if I'm remembering correctly ran for election against Lincoln because of their disagreements over the war. But, there were also these supposedly "better" Southern generals who just charged soldiers into meetgrinders overcamd over for no reason, so it doesn't hold up anyway

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    lmao the person in the replies posting the Tony Snell stat line

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