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Nooooo….how heckin’ DARE you! White people are literally perfect and people who are literally perfect have no agency! It’s da jooz! It’s da jooz!

(Don’t ask what ethnicity Jesus or the Apostles were.)

Ayyyyy, this-ah Jewish guy is-ah telling da people to share-ah their Stromboli!

Mama mia! We-ah gotta nail him to ah tree for dat! Boopity boopity!

Works for me

No, Muslims.

‘*Ibn al‐Athir, perhaps drawing on firsthand knowledge, reports that the city’s patriarch aroused fellow Franks to avenge this loss by making a picture of Jesus that “portrayed Christ (peace be upon him) along with an Arab, depicted as beating him. They put blood on the portrait of Christ and said to the people, ‘This is Christ with Muhammad, the prophet of the Muslims, beating him. [Muhammad] has wounded and slain him.’”*’

never underestimate the evils of the Penisulars

That's why they're called white hammer

That's not even right either. Jesus died because of everybody's sins, retroactively weighed down in the cross by the burden of all of humanity's sins, past and future. The Jews didn't kill Jesus. The Romans didn't kill Jesus. Literally every single person who has ever breathed killed Jesus, that's the whole point! He didn't carry the sins of the people who were there condemning Him to die at the cross, He was carrying every sin ever committed!

I think strictly speaking while Pontius Pilate orders the crucifixion, there's also supposed to be several points where Jesus could have been saved, like when Barabbas a violent criminal is pardoned instead of him at the request of the people.

My gut feeling on the whole reasoning is that partially it's the attitude of like, Jesus is supposed to be of their people but they betray him, while the Romans are acting as occupiers naturally would. And also the Romans are forgiven by reason of adopting and spreading Christianity, while Jewish people remain Jewish.

That's basically the logic that is used for this strain of antisemitism.

Well :

Markus:

In the Passion story according to Mark, Pilate appears in two scenes:

-Mark 15:1–15 EU: Why the High Council handed Jesus over to Pilate after its death sentence is a blank part of the story. During the subsequent interrogation, Pilate asks whether Jesus is King of the Jews. Jesus avoids a clear yes or no ("You say so"). Jesus does not answer the many accusations brought against him by the High Council. Pilate is surprised because the accused's dignified silence is to be interpreted as an admission of guilt under Roman criminal law.[29] On the occasion of Passover, the population requests the amnesty of a prisoner. Pilate believes that the high priests handed Jesus over to him "only out of envy". He therefore sees through the fact that the high priests want to get rid of a competitor and secure their position in Jewish society. Now Pilate tests how much support the Messiah pretender or King Jesus actually has among the population. He offers the crowd to release Jesus. The crowd, "incited" by the high priests, refuses, and cannot be persuaded by Pilate's questions, and demands that Jesus be crucified. In order to "satisfy" the crowd, he has Jesus scourged and "hands him over to be crucified." In this scene, Helen K. Bond does not see Pilate as a weak ruler who does not convert Jesus' correctly recognized innocence into an acquittal, but emphasizes his clever tactics. He believed Jesus to be a potentially dangerous rebel against Rome. By inviting the crowd to show solidarity with Jesus (and then share the fate of an insurgent with him), he succeeds in distancing them from the previously popular Galilean and can now have him executed without causing riots at the Passover festival.[30]

-Mk 15:43–45 EU: Joseph of Arimathea asks Pilate for the body of Jesus. Pilate has his captain confirm that Jesus is already dead. He then gives the body to Joseph for burial.

Matthew:

-Mt 27:19-20 EU: Pilate's nameless wife tells him that she knows from a dream that Jesus is a "righteous man", i.e. innocent. However, her concern is not for his fate, but exclusively for her husband. Pilate confirms this in his subsequent behavior.[31]

-Mt 27:24 EU: With the Jewish ritual of washing hands, the Roman Pilate relieves himself of his responsibility for the execution of Jesus. He does not declare Jesus innocent, but himself:[32] "I am innocent of the blood of this man." The differing text of the Vulgate is interesting in terms of its historical impact: "I am innocent of the blood of this righteous man (innocens ego sum a sanguine iusti huius)."

-Mt 27:25 EU: The anti-Jewish criticism is most clearly expressed in the "cry for blood" with which the crowd declares itself ready to bear the consequences of the execution of the innocent Jesus. Matthew, who looks back on the Jewish War and ahead to the impending end of the world, did not mean by this a curse that had hung over Judaism for centuries, in contrast to the history of the reception of this verse. According to Ulrich Luz, the previous destruction of Jerusalem in the year 70 is the consequence of the cry for blood for the evangelist, and it is thereby also compensated for and does not affect a condemnation of Israel in the final judgment. “Matthew does not expect a historical ‘curse’ to last for centuries” – because there is only a short time left until the end; but nothing positive can be expected for Israel during this period.

Luke:

In the trial of Jesus, the Gospel of Luke sets the following accents:

-Luke 23:1–5 EU: The accusations that the High Council brings against Jesus are named: inciting the crowd, refusing to pay taxes, claiming to be a king. Pilate must take these anti-Roman activities very seriously in his office. This is sedition (seditio), and as a crimen laesae maiestatis it carries the death penalty. (The reader of the Gospel of Luke knows ahead of Pilate that Jesus is demanding tax payment and has not declared himself king; his accusers are thus exposed as liars.)[37] It seems all the more unmotivated that Pilate is satisfied with Jesus' evasive answer to his claim to kingship and declares the accused innocent as soon as the trial has begun.[38]

-Luke 23:6–12 EU: Pilate has the imprisoned Jesus handed over as a Galilean to his sovereign Herod Antipas, who is currently in Jerusalem. During the interrogation scene before Antipas, Jesus remains silent and does nothing spectacular, as Antipas had hoped. Antipas sends the prisoner back to Pilate, dressed in a magnificent robe as a mockery; as a result of this incident, both put an end to an existing conflict and become friends. This episode contains several gaps that the reader must fill in for himself. In particular, it remains unclear what Pilate expected from Antipas.[39] Here too, as in the minimalist questioning of the prisoner, the Lukan Pilate gives the impression that he wants to have as little to do with the matter as possible.[40]

-Lk 23:13–25 EU: Pilate tells the high priests, the leading figures and the crowd his verdict on Jesus: He has done nothing that deserves the death penalty. Herod Antipas also sees it that way. Therefore, he should be punished[41] and then released. The crowd shouts for his crucifixion, and as the tumult grows, Pilate gives in and "hands Jesus over to their will." The leading Jews of Jerusalem, who are enforcing their will here, are therefore, in Luke's portrayal, the ones actually responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. According to the wording of the text (verse 26), it is they who carry out the crucifixion; However, ancient readers knew that crucifixion was carried out by Roman soldiers as a Roman punishment.[42] The fact that he simultaneously releases the rebel and murderer Barabbas, simply because the crowd demands it, underlines Pilate's complete failure.[43]

John:

-John 18:28–32: Early in the morning, "they" (the Jewish court officials) bring Jesus to the Praetorium, Pilate's official residence. They wait outside so as not to become ritually impure by entering the building before Passover (a detail that the commentators interpret as ironic, since they are about to incur a much more serious guilt by accusing an innocent person). Pilate comes out and asks what Jesus' guilt is. He is a criminal. Pilate suggests that they should judge him themselves. They answer that they have no right to execute anyone. Pilate appears here in a friendly light, but also shows a tendency to want to get rid of responsibility for Jesus' case.[46]

-John 18:33–38 EU: The first dialogue scene between Jesus and Pilate revolves around the question of the extent to which Jesus is a king. Jesus explains that his kingdom is "not of this world" and therefore poses no threat to Rome. He is a king by bearing witness to the truth. Pilate asks: "What is truth?" The sentence is interpreted in different ways. For Rudolf Bultmann and his school in particular, the Pilate question is a declaration that the state is not responsible for religious and philosophical questions. Other exegetes, including Johannes Beutler, see Pilate as one of several uncomprehending interlocutors of the Johannine Jesus: without a willingness to believe, no communication can take place in this gospel.[47] According to Carl Schmitt, Pilate's attitude can be interpreted, depending on one's point of view, either as an expression of "tired skepticism", as agnosticism, as an "expression of superior tolerance" or as an early case of ideological neutrality of the state and administration.[48]

-John 19:1–7 EU: John brought forward the mistreatment of Jesus, which actually took place after the verdict and before the execution, because the sight of the mistreated man could, according to the intention of the Johannine Pilate, arouse pity in "the Jews" and dissuade them from their desire for death. At the same time, Jesus is given the insignia of a king, admittedly as a mockery.[49] Pilate presents the mistreated and humiliated prisoner with the words: "Behold the man." This is perhaps intended to portray him as pathetic, but also innocent. But the crowd sees Jesus as the pretender to be the Messiah and demands crucifixion. Pilate unrealistically suggests that the Jewish authorities should crucify him themselves. Firstly, they did not have the right to carry out the death penalty (the ius gladii), and secondly, the death penalty under Jewish law would have been stoning. The crowd now cites as an additional reason for death that Jesus had declared himself to be the son of God.

-John 19:8–12 EU: This information leaves the Johannine Pilate increasingly perplexed and prepares the next dialogue scene in the interior. With the question "Where are you from?" Pilate interprets sonship of God in the pagan sense as descent from deities. Jesus does not answer because he had not previously reached Pilate with his self-definition (king as witness for the truth). Pilate reminds them of his power to condemn or release the prisoner; Jesus replies that this power was given to him "from above" and that Pilate is therefore only a tool of the divine plan. Outside, the crowd shouts that

Yes

Considering the former (and still lingering) "quality control" was basically the state department I honestly can't say it's a bad thing tbh. Naturally still hate Musk, but the "state-funded media" debacle for instance was

It's pretty commonly accepted that Jesus was a real guy