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Rockstar Games' servers have been under heavy fire from massive DDoS attacks in recent days, causing widespread login and connectivity issues for players of GTA Online. These attacks come in the wake of Rockstar’s recent implementation of BattlEye, a new anti-cheat system designed to crack down on in-game cheating, sparking backlash from a segment of the player base. Protesters, unhappy with the new system, have resorted to using distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks to disrupt the servers, escalating tensions between the gaming giant and its community.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Articles a joke since it doesn't mention that the people pissed off are the linux players. Not the cheaters but the linux users.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

There's a patch for proton for Battleye. My understanding is that it's really easy for developers to support Linux with it, but I think they're using their own engine, so things may be harder. Regardless, that's bullshit if they added something without considering Linux users.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago

After having talked to some on the GTA V SCUD, so many think we are in support of the cheaters and are framing our frustration around us just wanting the cheaters back.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

The most confusing part about this is that people are still playing GTA Online. Why...?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

People enjoy video game, more news at 11

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

something that perplexes me to this day

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

Because it keeps getting updates?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Hardcore normies.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that it’s a top 10 seller on steam deck for years and they just fucked over everyone on Linux, they deserve it. We all paid them and they completely screwed all of us. I feel so cheated. I only run Linux and I have a steam deck. I left a bad review on steam and I contacted their support from all my rockstar accounts, but it’s not enough. Battleye is compatible with Linux, they just had to send an email, but rockstar keeps lying that it’s not compatible.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Even if it's not compatible, "ok then where's my damn refund?"

Basically theft, really.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

You can request a refund. An earlier post last week said they are offering refunds for rug-pulled players.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

One important thing to add is that the refund is offered by Valve, not by Rockstar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I guess Valve being the escrow, they may hold future revenue payout from sale of other R* games

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

But I don't believe at the scale of thousands of players for >1 year.
Remember, they are (supposedly) offering it even if you played a 100 hundred hours. I don't think that comes only from Valve. They'd burn bridges with publishers should they deduct it from their pay as a "You rugpulled our user base. We are now offering refunds if requested and will take it from your cut as compensation".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

Well at least that's good tbf.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Iam out of the loop. What kind of cheats are available in gta online? Edit: or what was available.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago

They didn't enable linux support on the anticheat, so the game no longer runs on Linux/steam deck

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The most common cheat is probably gaining money or experience, but there have always been pretty extensive mod menus for GTA Online with tools from invincibility to making your vehicles rainbow, to randomly causing other players to explode or setting hundreds of muggers on them.

In 2015ish, I used to cheat, other than getting rich, all I was interested in doing was making an indestructible chrome bus with smoke trails that I'd drive around picking up players in, to teleport us all to North Yankton and back like a tour guide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Aren't there like cheat servers and non-cheat servers? Or is that a "gentleman's agreement" that not everyone is playing fair with if you can't fully block it because of mods etc?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago

This is actually really effective as a form of protest. From a business perspective, Rockstar probably won't roll anticheat back, but future companies will assess it as part of the risk when looking to add AC

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Couldn't we avoid all this by giving players the option to host and moderate their own servers?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago

Ownership of purchased goods?

Are you crazy????????

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Tons of the problems of modern day matchmaking could be solved by this, but if players are running their own servers then they can just have their server give them the items they want, which means no more premium currency purchases for R$.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago

I'm not going to condone this, but also.... haha.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I don't play these games or really any game that needs anti cheat. What's the controversy? I assume the anti cheat is awful?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

While I haven't looked into this particular anti-cheat; they frequently prevent Linux users from playing altogether, ban users due to false positives, and sometimes even gain/require access to data entirely unrelated to gaming, such as your personal documents or even browser data (cookies, history, passwords/tokens, etc) as many of them contain Rootkits

[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago

On top of that they dont really seem to actually stop cheating. Im sure they reduce it but games with anti cheat still deal with a ton of cheaters

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously, personal documents? What in the ever loving fuck. Jeez, no I don't want to play your game so bad I need to prove it with a passport.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, they aren't specifically targeting this data.

Rootkits give the software unrestricted access to all the data on the computer. You then trust that they don't use that access for anything nefarious... Aswell as trusting there's no bugs/vulnerabilities in that software that give a third party access to that data.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Ah, my misunderstanding - kernel level anti-cheat is also a bit bizarre tbh, like people really really don't understand the level of control they're handing over to random games companies.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago

What's happened is GTA Online suddenly switched to using BattlEye for it's anti-cheating. And this broke Steam Deck compatibility suddenly. Now, this is bad enough but reports state that BattlEye will work with the Steam Deck, and all Rockstar needs to do is just send a message to BattlEye and it'll just work. But Rockstar doesn't seem to be interested in sending that email.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's disgusting! Where do those criminals gather, so I could go an express my utter disappointment to them directly?

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