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TIL it has its own wiki page.
This depressing page also exists exists: List of mass shootings in the United States in 2024
As of August 31, a total of 527 people have been killed and 1,755 people have been wounded in 432 shootings.
For 2024 (only) ugh...
If you plot it over the last 20 years it looks a lot like a Verizon coverage map. Coincidence?
Real talk, nationwide maps like that are useless. They're just the the population map.
Sadly, yes. CNN has actually made some good graphs
Optimistically this year may end up not quite as deadly as the past couple.
Edit: looks like they're counting differently however.
Edit2: they're using the Gun Violence Archive number "a nonprofit research group that tracks shootings and their characteristics in the United States, defines a mass shooting as an incident in which four or more people, excluding the perpetrator(s), are shot in one location at roughly the same time"
While Wikipedia sources from multiple lists (including VGA's) and a shooting needs to be listed in at least two for inclusion.
Well that's progress, at least?
I haven't looked into this at all. Why did it jump during COVID years? People cooped up too much?
That was likely a factor. Canada had its deadliest shooting rampage in history during that time.
To be fair, 432 shootings in a country of 340,000,000 isn't THAT crazy, relatively speaking, especially considering the existence of the 2nd Amendment, and that last I heard, there are more guns in the US than people.
Well, IMO, thats the crazy part..
I don't like guns either, just trying to be objective about it. People like to talk about the US like we're all constantly gunning each other down, but the reality is that it's quite rare.
Even moreso if you don't count stuff like gang hits, which this was.
If more kids die by guns than car crashes, I think that's significant. Also IIRC USA has way more car accidents than the EU.
You just got used to it IMO.
You are correct, the US needs to increase speed limits to even things out again.
Most countries don't have more than one shooting a day.
Most countries don't have 340,000,000 people, either.
Yeah absolutely nothing to do with the worlds most stupid laws about guns. No no, not at all. It's... checks notes ... that there are less inhabitants there than in the EU.
Mocking me for simply pointing out that ratios give better perspective than raw numbers is only making you look like a moron, just so you know.
No u
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Interestingly the stripe along the east coast follows the I-95 corridor.
Because I-95 follows the cities where people live. This is basically a population heatmap.
Not your typical mass shooting:
"Police believe multiple suspects arrived at the location in a vehicle. The suspects exited the vehicle and fired multiple shots at a group of people who were on the sidewalk of Magnolia Avenue before getting back in their vehicle and fleeing the scene.
Detectives believe the shooting was not random and stemmed from an isolated incident where multiple victims were caught in the crossfire.
In a new conference Sunday morning, Birmingham Police Chief Scott Thurmond says he believes someone was paid to kill the targeted victim, and they believe that victim is among those who died.
Police confirmed the weapons used were fully automatic. More than 100 shell casings were found at the scene, according to Chief Thurmond."
Guns are just a plague in this country.
Dumb and propagandized people are the plague, guns violence is the symptom. But yeah, it is easier to get rid of the guns, because it is hard as fuck to educate those people because they don't listen.
It seems obvious that there is no cure for idiots. The rest of the world has shown by example that less guns is the solution to endless gun violence.
Or good gun laws, like here in Czechia. We have kind of strict tests to obtain a license and lots of ways to weed out weirdos. It is also a long process so nobody can just come and buy a gun whenever they please.
Everybody is better off when a person having a bad day doesn't have a catastrophe button.
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Guns are just ONE plague in this country...
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I read Birmingham and for a second thought this might not be in the US, oh how foolish I am.
I used to think that gun laws/ownership in the US was workable, I know lots of responsible gun owners, and have shot a couple guns myself. But I'm just tired of all these mass shootings, at this point maybe we should just get rid of them.
Ya I was mass shootings in England wtf.
Letting people carry around guns all day have always seemed so stupid for me, but I'm european so different culture and all that.
A culture that recognizes common sense.
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Pew pew Murica Pew Pew.
This is who we are, and the world should judge us accordingly for our unrepentant murderous barbarism thinly masked as "freedumb."
Don't worry my fellow Americans, our only practiced cultural value, greed, won't be injured by the latest mass shooting, it makes private gun manufacturer stocks go up, which is of course the meaning of existence.
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See you all again in a few days!
No good guys in Alabama either.
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