As it turned out, Bush was chosen by the Supreme Court as the vote was so close, particularly in Florida, though Gore won the overall popular vote.
What a clear and persuasive case for the power of voting in America.
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As it turned out, Bush was chosen by the Supreme Court as the vote was so close, particularly in Florida, though Gore won the overall popular vote.
What a clear and persuasive case for the power of voting in America.
I honestly don't understand how you can look at a country where, regularly, the person with more votes doesn't win and consider it a democracy. Like not even talking all the nitty gritty of voter suppression and gerrymandering or what have you, just straight up more votes still lose
and its usually not even close, we're talking millions of votes discarded
an important part of American Democracy™ is the importance of rewarding disenfranchisement. the electoral college and districting systems award representative voting power based on the total population of your state/district, but is influenced only by actual votes cast. so if you lock up everybody in a state and ban your enemies from voting, you get all of their voting power anyway. and that includes prison populations.
the number of congressional districts that would have dissolved from outmigration but for a prison being built there to bolster the total human population is nonzero. a prison is like a little city in terms of funding and state power, but it's even better because they can't oppose your political project in any way.
this is the legacy of democracy designed by genocidal slavers.
Excuse the ignorance but you gotta be shitting me as per prison population counts for electoral college but they can't vote
lol, i am not shitting you!
backstory: for a time i lived in a federal congressional district in a part of the country that has been subject to The Eye of Sauron / Capitalist Shithammer for a long time. it was one of the few and first places in the US to spontaneously develop a series of multiracial, anti-capitalist and militant armed insurrections. prison labor camps were liberated, stockades were burned, deputized thugs and strikebreakers were run off. eventually, the president had the military deploy some of the first military aircraft to drop explosives and chemical weapons on the striking workers and the communities that supported them. the strikes were eventually broken and the series of events has mostly been memory-holed under a project of national forgetting, the communities punished with deprivation and ruthless austerity while unfathomable riches were ripped away, poisoning their land and water. on top of this, the mass cultural products of the last 100 years spread around by capitalist media characterize the people and places as being savage, primitive, genetically inferior, and guilty of all manner of moral deviancy.
so after a hundred years of that, one can imagine this is a place people leave in great numbers. it has been and still is administered to be as miserable as possible by corrupt officials and purposely underdeveloped despite the incredible influx of public funding into the area.... that somehow never reaches or helps actual people. not to mention, the easy resources have all been extracted with much of the old labor needs dislocated due to environmentally devastating mechanized extraction, so the prospect of work is limited. the young people with options flee. there are certainly enough people to maintain what extractive projects are still in place, but the federal representative that has lorded over this apocalyptic space, having grown very powerful within the institution over the last decades, was forecast to lose his district in a merger due to it falling below a minimum population requirement.
that's when he shifted gears to court the carceral apparatus. a few prisons later, and his district is safe and his political machine is institutionally invincible. he's one of the most evil and powerful motherfuckers in american government and practically nobody has heard of him. he has been re-elected 21 times and holds all the purse strings. the guy has multiple highways and bridges named after him, despite not being dead or retired. that is uncommon in the US. representatives on both sides of the aisle complain about how he redirects massive federal money to his own political machine in defiance of logic and common sense, but no one is crazy enough to challenge him. his name is hal rogers and he is the Wizard of Shit.
3/5ths compromise for me but not for thee
As the founding fathers would say, muh tyranny of the majority.
Although my prefrerrd candidate, Eugene McCarthy, won by far the largest percentage of the popular vote in the Democratic general primaries—approximately 3 million or 38.7% to Humphrey’s 161 thousand or 2.1% in a crowded field of candidates—Humphrey didn’t even bother to enter some of the state primaries. Nonetheless, party officials gave Humphrey the right to carry the Democratic banner as its presidential nominee.
It did this by awarding Humphrey the vast majority of overall delegates in the non-primary states, thereby bringing him over the top in terms of the number of delegates needed. Talk about “rigged elections”!
There's also this. The entire thing is him describing the democrats as party that would prefer to loose by drifting to the right, rather than utilize its left flank.
Dislike
no, I do not "dislike" "both" candidates. I hate them
Absolutely not, I'm voting for Claudia and Karina
So you're voting for trump? Thanks.
Yeah, you have to write in Biden or else you're voting for trump
Whew just got this last night on a tiktok comment. Just lol quite a lot. I honestly feel bad for them, they were trans and trying to belligerently get me to vote for Harris as if that will help the situation.
I do feel bad bc I think trump is obviously worse on lgbtq issues. But at the end of the day, genocide is genocide and I'm not voting for American Express vs Blackrock all over again
Should be a dunk tank post. Guess what brain genius withholding your GE vote in California had exactly 0 impact on the outcome, and given that it was done in protest of them rigging the primary is even more justified since if everyone did the same thing the Dems wouldn't be pulling this bullshit 50 years later
Wow. Can't believe this one person not voting decided the 1972 and 2000 elections. What are the odds
And the scary part is, history tends to repeat itself. Please, for the love of God, vote to save democracy in the most important election of our lives.
Yes. That one person should definitely vote
That's why I'm writing-in Biden
Biden is the only one who can save the US from fascism
They told us this over andv over, i'm not going to be tricked into voting for Trump by voting for Harris instead of Biden
Whenever someone tells me to vote for Harris, I’m now ready to accuse them of trying to trick my into voting for Trump. Thank you, comrade.
I'm too angry to even read this. fuck these lesser-evil idiots, genocide-supporting scum every one
Wow, thanks for trump
I remember when liberals said this shit falsely blaming people for Bush and now they love Bush
I wonder what is thinking right now. Did they manage to push Biden left? Did the Americans have a good and honest discussion about dismantling the two-party system?
Why do you blame voters and not the candidates?
he's just doing a bit about the standard liberal "a vote for anyone but team blue is a vote for trump" attitude
also when you vote for a party that blames you for not voting for them, and doesn't let you pick who you want to vote for and if you do pick who you want and its more popular than their guy, they just go with their own guy anyway
Anyone voting for democrats is a fool and a rube, and is continuing to legitimize the exact system and processes that brought us to this very moment
In this space, that comment was an obvious over the top bit. I can see how you would think it was serious tho, considering how fucked up the rest of the world is. 🤷
Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense.
Because the voters are giving us Trump. In fact, so are you by even posting this comment. Thanks so much.
And so this person was unable to say "don't blame me, i voted for kodos" and they never got over it
I'm sure one of you has a gif of that scene
A lot of Americans, especially the ones obsessed with voting, have the most incredible main character syndrome I've ever seen.
No, asshole, we live in new york state. My vote for president literally does not matter and neither does fucking yours unless you crumple your ballot up into a ball and throw it at the dem candidate so hard they die.
This latest Trump shooter is a perfect example.
Voted for Trump in 2016 then voted for biden in 2020 because he'd become a single issue voter on arming ukriane.
This dumb sack of shit literally could not have possibly gotten more of what he asked for out of voting for neigh on a decade at this point. But the entire country wasn't bending over backwards to give him exactly what he asked for fast enough and hard enough so he figured he could single handedly also be a spec ops sniper and continue to bend reality to his will, based in the fact he deserved the entire universe to bend to his will.
It's so funny that in a non-election year you can maybe get (a shrinking minority of) liberals to recognize the anti-democratic nature of gerrymandering and the electoral college, but every four years they'll use examples of that anti-democracy to berate you for choosing to vote for a third party.
The state I live in has gone for the Republican in 9 out of the last 12 elections, and the margin has gotten bigger every year since 2000. The bubble I circle on the top of the ballot is literally irrelevant to the outcome of the election, and that's ON PURPOSE. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but
Actually I like seeing their personal story, at least what I read of it, so I can laugh at how much of a lib they are.
Here is a list of things that you really would have expected to have radicalized me more.
Wow, I guess you'll be laughing all the way through February when Trump gets inaugurated. Thanks for ending democracy.
These articles all boil down to "Tire yourself out on the hamster wheel of electoralism! Perform the impotent ritual!" But they don't understand that is what they are doing.
they're doing the antinixon vote is the most important election of all time
For most it doesn't matter what souless ghoul gets in, same shit different day. Antigsrm and pro racism wave? Going to continue. War and genocide? Yep, going to continue.
Consider this: Obama voice Uhhh I'm gay
thinking about doing the thing that makes the most sense? well you might change your mind after reading my autobiography. or you might not. but read my autobiography. please. pretty please.
I think this article (unintentionally) shows off the core of why libs need people to vote for their party. They have attached their sense of self-worth and morality to the idea of "supporting good team government" and can't handle the idea that they are wrong about that. So they need people to vote for their team lest they are forced to consider whether it is a wrong choice to do so, and that makes them deeply uncomfortable.