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Republican vice-presidential candidate Senator JD Vance continues to stoke outrage against foreign-born members of his own constituency, sharing video footage with his 1.9 million social media followers that he claimed showed African migrants in Dayton, Ohio “eating cats” — but instead appears to show nothing more than poultry cooking on an outdoor grill.

“Kamala Harris and her media apparatchiks should be ashamed of themselves,” Vance posted Saturday on X, the social network formerly known as Twitter. “Another ‘debunked’ story that turned out to have merit.”

Vance has claimed, falsely, in recent days that Haitians — who are not Africans — living in Springfield — a town of 58,000 which is not Dayton — were stealing, killing, and consuming their neighbors’ pets.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't know if your unnecessary backhanded attacks help your argument, or just make you sound really cool. Can't make up my mind on that one! Why don't you tell me what you googled and maybe throw in a few quips about how unreasonable and nonsensical my responses are and then I'm sure the discussion will resolve itself in a constructive way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

JD Vance said he was Making the Story up so as a Free Thinking Republican I need to wait until Fox News tells me what to think!

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago

Offering a $5000 bounty for video proof is the same as paying $5000 for someone to manufacture the proof. This is like a Cobra bounty in India only results in Cobra farms.

[–] [email protected] 150 points 3 days ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism

Stochastic terrorism is political violence that has been instigated by hostile public rhetoric which is directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished by using indirect, vague, or coded language that allows the instigator to plausibly disclaim responsibility for the resulting violence.[1] A key element is the use of social media and other distributed forms of communications where the person who carries out the violence has no direct connection to the users of violent rhetoric.[2]

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They're also purposefully leaning into this to keep the conversation about immigration, because it's pretty much the only issue they have had an advantage on. Without Trump talking about eating pets, we'd all be talking about his abortion stance right now, which is deeply unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Democrats need to respond by making the story about why Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

People, remember how Trump presidency went! Bad news for Trump? Float a batshiit crazy thing to get the media to play with that shiny ball instead. This is a fucking distraction, Trump lost the debate, he is courting fascists, he is old and weird and people leave his rallys bored, he had to throw a stink bomb

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago (1 children)

JFC, the person who started all this on Facebook says it's false and these freaks are like "NOPE, THIS IS ALL WE CARE ABOUT NOW"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That person deserves some jail time

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 days ago (3 children)

JD has a really weird fixation on cats. Cat ladies, grilling cats, cats cats cats. Has JD ever bummed a cat? We'll never know but it makes me wonder

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Cats have been known to scratch up a couch. Hummmm.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“Another ‘debunked’ story that turned out to have merit.”

This is the most infuriating thing they do. They assume that any developing story is actually the most extreme version that favors their side. Then they ignore all evidence to the contrary and fish for any evidence that they can claim as confirmation, even if it doesn't pass the laugh test. But they assert "It was confirmed!" with such confidence and shamelessness that it becomes easier for people to believe them, and eventually the media stops trying to debunk them.

Definitely not the first time this happened. If you wanna find other examples, look at anything where experts on the topic believe one thing but a majority of the American people believe the other. It's pretty much guaranteed that the thing the American people believe originated as GOP propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

A nutjob conservative on Lemmy has been telling me that babies are being executed in post-birth abortions using these same tactics.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (28 children)

Wow. They are really going over the deep end on this. How could this possibly help them win votes?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Backtracking equals flip-flopping, and then it's a slippery slope to learning and growing and admitting you were wrong.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're probably right. And if they're going to keep swimming towards the bottom of the pool, I really want journalists to start asking them why Haitians are eating pets. Because that's the part that they haven't actually made clear.

Haitians don't eat dogs and cats in Haiti. The Haitians in Springfield aren't starving, most of them have jobs. So why are they eating them, JD?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

JD isn’t talking to people who think stuff through like that, he’s talking to racists and they don’t care if it’s true or not, it gives them an excuse to feel that way.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They need to send Jose Maria Del Pino, the reporter who kicked Stephen Miller right in his whataboutism. That dude was relentless and would not fall for his shit.

JD would be fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

JDV is like a toddler trying to trick you by hiding behind the curtains, but you can still see his Scooby Doo Velcro shoes and he’s back there giggling.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

CH CH CH CHICK CHECKMATE!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Given most of the stuff right wingers complain about is projection, maybe we need to check this guy's myfitnesspal

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

I don't know about JD, but RFK, Jr. once literally got accused of eating a dog, so you think he at least would be out there calling them on this bullshit.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4753486-rfk-jr-vanity-fair-article/

Apparently not though. Guess it's okay when the accusation is against black immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

There is no such thing as an "honest conservative". No such thing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Swift, the crazy cat lady, gives endorsement, distract with crazy cat news. This is a distraction, Trump does this

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (6 children)

it would be so much work to stalk, kill, prep and eat someone's dog or cat. people don't even keep their pets outside much anymore. If people had pigs or some larger, meatier pets kept outside all hours at least it'd be a more realistic lie but like c'mon... who's out there with fuggen ninja cat hunting skills? What are they using to quietly and efficiently kill these pets? Who even got that kinda time?

If this dumb cluck had any sense he'd say they were buying pups from PetSmart or breeding them themselves to eat or something. That lie would at least be in the realm of possibility! Nobody's pets would have to disappear before an idiot believed it!

Fucking loser can't even stoke hate properly

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Where's dave chappelle in all of this? Isnt this in his backyard? Isnt he a trump supporter now?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess this will be the new birth certificate thing for them.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

US politics is hilarious. Why do you even waste time on those dumbasses? Go and do productive things. You have lots of time while this crazy trumpy shit is going on.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Because we're fucking terrified of them winning.

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