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Because too many people, including self-described leftists, believe in the marketing bullshit that called it "AI" to begin with, which has been a staggering triumph... of marketing bullshit.

I don't want to wander into the weeds with the kind of people that have a "just one more burnt forest bro, just one more dried up lake bro, a sufficiently large dataset will make that one le epic scene in Blade Runner 2049 come true" but it's hard not to when they tend to at the same time with smug misanthropic put-downs about us emotional fearful Luddite meat computers and all that.

Yes, the important part is that this latest means of production is so far a highly wasteful solution in search of a problem... though it did find one problem of the bourgeoisie that it can potentially solve: removing workers entirely from the equation wherever it's crammed in, no matter how sloppy, unreliable, or even hazardous the results.

Contempt for workers, and people in general, is the point. And it's fucking exhausting when the old horse of "what if the treat printer wakes up and is a cyberspace waifu that loves me unconditionally" gets trotted out... which is intentional marketing bullshit by the hype pushers.

I can't think of anyone ever giving a shit about whether ai is sentient here, it's always about the pollution and exploitation of workers/artists.

I think you may have the wrong hexbear. Most discussions about llms here are how much they suck and or the awful problems they're going to cause when"ai" code turns out to have non-human readable bugs that no one can figure out.

I quit discussing it when i got called an ableist and/or a luddite for saying AI art is derivative bullshit and theft. Those people will recognise themselves, and yes, I sill despise you. I dont have the appetite for struggle sessions so I usually disengage immediately.

I haven't seen anyone defending AI on here, but that should be a purgeable offense imo

if you're rich, to just want less humans on earth because it means less chance of a supervirus pandemic murdering them. it's almost their only vulnerability to immortality.

Probably because that shit is self evident.

The most salient argument against "AI" is that we just don't fucking need it. For anything. There is no reason it should exist. The ends 1,000,000% do NOT justify the means, and they never, ever will. That's all I have to say about this shit, and anyone who disagrees with this very basic premise is naive at best and should get out of the way. There are too many here like that, yes. You see assholes posting AI generated meme art here for the gags all the time and I want to scream. Unprincipled morons.

All of these discussions lack specificity. "AI" isn't a monolith and means a ton of different things. Image classification and targeting uses ML and it is very helpful and is used widely. Some TTS and STT applications could be considered AI as they use ML models for continuous improvement. Translation services use ML. Exoplanet hunting uses ML models. Your email filtering uses ML. AI stuff is used everywhere in cybersecurity. "AI=LLM" is missing a ton of nuance and information.