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I wouldnt call it "degrowth".

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago

I wasn’t earning enough money so I decided to cut costs by not going to the office anymore and now they’ve fired me

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago

Tearing the copper from the walls makes the building less useful even if that copper sold pretty good that one time surprised-pika

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Austerity true believers are always convinced this time their scheme will work and then it blows up in their faces. Like a fucked up ancap version of Rita Repulsa

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Curses, the Dual Power Rangers have caused the rate of profit to fall!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

where are the degrowth leftists now? smuglord

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

milei will someday be prosecuted for mass murder.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

Lol we wish

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Prosecuting for social murder is literally the absolute last thing burgies and their dogs will allow, because 99% of them would go into the pit.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

Hm... But what about GDP? Or the rich? How are they doing?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I wouldnt call it “degrowth”.

Is there even a definition of degrowth out there? I heard everything from normal socialist curbing of overproduction up to holocaust of nearly entire humanity because immediately getting back to monke be called "degrowth" out there in the nets.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago

Degrowth implies some kind of intention and plan to it at least. Milei crashed the economy while trying to grow it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Jsson Hickel defines it as basically climate justice but for reducing energy use and resource use in production. Ways to reduce energy use include making fewer things or not making unnecessary things, which goes against capitalist growth tendencies, so the name kind of fits. Confusingly, GDP could go up under a "degrowth" of this type.

In my opinion the countries with the political capacity to reduce energy and resource use would fail to actually do do if they basically crashed their economies via lower GDPs that only they take on. It might look good for the world for a few months or years but eventually they'd need to reverse course either due to political pressure or because it becomes a failed state. Realistically, countries will need GDP growth to coincidd with reduced energy use. China is going in the right direction for this by developing production for things like solar and wind and addressing energy efficiency and pollution at its factories. Both are massive challenges that have not been fully overcome by a long shot, but they show how degrowth depends on improvements in production and its forces to be vianle.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For me it's that first worlders (and to a lesser extent the top 1% in the global south) should reduce excess consumption. Oversized trucks and homes, high meat and dairy consumption, buying new phones every year for the sake of it etc...

The Argentina situation fucks over everyone except the top percentiles who are allowed to consume as they please.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oversized trucks and homes, high meat and dairy consumption, buying new phones every year for the sake of it etc...

while those are wasteful things, we shouldn't be individualist about it. emissions regulations, licensing and taxes for large vehicles, ending cow subsidies, and central planning to eliminate over-production are real solutions while magically changing individual liberal habits are not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yea of course, car centric design has to go. i agree its not an individual issue.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Aerodynamics of a continent

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Brasil really fluctuating there

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't really trust 2018-2022 numbers from Brazil (bolsenaro). But his government did do something simmilar to the stimulas check in 2020

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I feel really bad for average Argentinians who have to deal with this bullshit but I'm definitely having a laugh at Milei today

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I just can't figure out why AMLO and co are popular. Is it because they have brainwashed the population?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

"Prosperity is ahead for Argentina"