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Doom is crying because the Planes missed the Baxter Building.

Also Magneto why are you there?? you are supposed to be death from the Wild Sentinel attack on genosha

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This is liberalism distilled.

Couldn't even bother showing one of them actually helping. All these people who have higher body counts then this need to do to be relevant here is be sad for a few seconds.

chefs-kiss

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Was watching a video about why anime and manga are universally loved while American comic books and associated media pretty much are only popular in the states. One of the points that resonated with me was about how American comics will often denigrate and villainize races of people, and how people in different countries don't want to watch media about how they're terrorists, drug cartel members, etc.

I think about that a lot. Especially when it comes to things like this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Manga isn't just superhero

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

My point was that manga and anime aren't cursed with American "politics" like the above either.

Like it or not, manga and anime have a wide appeal because they are widely appealing. Messages are universal and are presented in ways that are universally understood.

What exactly is the message in this panel? How does this appeal to anyone except for Americans? Even then, americans have a problem with it because it doesn't even make sense for the character.

American comics have always done this kind of stuff; where self aggrandizing authors fellate themselves by writing in real life politics without offering any of the actual nuance people would normally afford a political piece.

In the end you get stuff like this, racist depictions of Asians, islamophobia, and the likes and no actual message beyond the current propaganda line.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

American media gets to appeal only to Americans and everything else needs to have a 'worldwide' appeal that happens include America heavily in consideration as if there's some sort of cultural hegemony or something

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That everything else is Japanese.

I'm comparing one country's comic industry to another.

Also, DC and especially Marvel have come out time and time again to talk about the difficulties with their media (especially movies) attracting an audience outside of America.

American comics are hyper specific, and as a result appeal to Americans only. On the other hand, Japanese mangas have global appeal because they aren't hyper specific to the Japanese.

More people know who Goku is than superman. There's a reason for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

They aren't hyper specific to the Japanese so they can market to Americans. The rest of the world also deals with this and their own imported American culture. America can be hyper specific to America because it's America. Goku is popular in Brazil via America

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shit Juggernaut destroyed the twin towers gleefully and now he crying?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I only see his back, he could be smiling

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

g'hefuck! I didn't even realize Juggernaut was there till you both said, and when I scrolled back up scanning the backgrounds for him he jump scared me

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Dr Doom sends Franklin, a little child, to hell. He's crying over this? Lmao

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

jet fuel can't melt steel beams but it can melt dr. doom's heart sadness

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I remember this issue. It was selling for like $35 in 2009.

I sold mine because I needed money during the recession.

EDIT: I bought it for cover price at the time, $2.25. I sold it for $35.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Did y'all know that no Mutants died on 911?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Why the heck does Magneto care enough about this to be there personally? There couldn't have been that many mutants or anyone else of note to him in the towers or he would've just stopped the planes???

cringe

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also pretty sure Magneto once had Juggernaut destroy the WTC

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Is that why Juggernaut's also in the background? To finish the job? che-smile

second-plane they-hit-the-pentagon

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Juggernaut is a first responder liberalism

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

We can only hope

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Shit in 2001 there was the genosha genocide written I think.... You know kang blowing up washing also happened that year in comics. Did comic writers feel some shit was coming that year? honk-enraged

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Also back then Magneto was Leader of Genosha which was a US enemy at the time so he has no reason to care about 9/11, plus in fatal attractions he did kill millions of people

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There's versions/times where Magneto might care about something like this somewhat so I didn't want to assume.

Your telling me they had a version of Magneto who was mission-accomplisheded and they brought him back from the dead not to tie him to a rocket and fire him at North Tower but to cry about someone doing the exact same thing he would've done if he was still alive?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yea, but then he was still dead until a chinese monk revealed he was magneto all along and he send a bunch of new yorkers to furnaces to burn them alive, but then turns out he wasnt that guy and the real magneto just woke up from the rubble in genosha and was like "hello xavier, what did i miss?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Comic books are weird.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wait!? JUGGERNAUT???

agony-4horsemen

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

The only one I think would genuinely care is Kingpin

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

In addition to this for the sake of continuity there was the kang dynasty comic event that was essentially a world war. Many destructive events but this was months before real world 9/11. Kang literally destroyed washington DC killing millions. So this really doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you looks back at the attack on the wtc with a marxist eye after getting used to media messaging campaigns of the last couple decades a few things stand out. The "innocents" line was pushed, really hard, in the same way that "unprovoked attack" is pushed with regards to Israel. There are certain phrases that dominate the messaging that make it clear they were chosen specific narratives that they wanted to push.

They pushed the "innocents" thing incredibly hard because they did not want people asking questions about why these people in particular were targeted, why they were being held responsible for the activities of america abroad. If people started asking whether they really deserved it then it would be problem.

Yeah sure, some of them were innocent, the cleaners certainly didn't deserve it... But a fucking lot of them were not though. They wanted to make sure nobody realised that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

This is so terribly written. I can see the author wanking themselves off with the constant "because" refrain, but it just does nothing apart from fucking up the rythm jagoff

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