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In short:

Facebook is scraping the public data of all Australian adults on the platform, it has acknowledged in an inquiry.

The company does not offer Australians an opt out option like it does in the EU, because it has not been required to do so under privacy law.

What's next?

Facebook representatives could not say whether an opt-out option would be offered to Australians in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s probably not just adults

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ms Claybaugh added that accounts of people under 18 were not scraped, but when asked by Senator Sheldon whether public photos of his own children on his account would be scraped, Ms Claybaugh acknowledged they would.

The Facebook representative could not answer whether the company scraped data from previous years of users who were now adults, but were under 18 when they created their accounts.

Welp

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Facebook representative could not answer whether...

This guy's terrible at his job. Even I can answer that one.

Abso-fucking-lutely yes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

the job doesn't involve telling the truth

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My opinion is that if your data or work is within an AI training set you should be given free access to any tools using that data. That's only fair considering these companies also think everything should be free for them to take.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think you should be able to get all of your data in any dataset or tool deleted whenever you ask them to. Not possible? That's their problem not yours, should've thought of that before collecting all information known to man

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I definitely agree with this too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it already exists in the EU

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well yeah, but I still can't delete my data from ai models

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Well that's fun

I'm not Australian, and I don't post on Facebook.

But my family posts on Facebook, including pictures of me. I hate that I didn't consent to any of this, yet they've fed my face into their AI tools.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, the data was public. Literally anyone could scrape it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I read this in Trump’s debate voice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the honesty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but they are all up-side down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's ok, so is the population distribution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

How much you wanna bet the didn't just stop at the adult accounts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Jokes on them. Facebook in Australia is an absolute cesspool.

And nobody from Facebook is doing anything with the reports

So, the only application for this data is to build a bot which acts like an asshole and make photos of cars which assholes own.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So stuff people post publicly should be private?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I post a picture on my private profile that only my friends can see, yes, that should be private.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but what if you post public stuff for the public to see? That’s what’s in question here I believe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The post says everything, which would include the private.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Facebook admits to scraping every Australian adult user's public photos and posts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You're right. I misremembered.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does say public, but I guess it's a confusing article. In any case, I'm all for privacy and not defending social media at all, just that if someone else chooses to not be private then they shouldn't be unhappy if it's actually not private is what I meant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You're right, I had misremembered the phrasing. I just hate that the current state of affairs is everything you put online is going into model training. I feel everything should be opt in. If a company wants to profit off of my stuff, they should have to ask, even if it's hosted there, especially since when these social media sites first came about, the idea of training data models with user information wasn't a thing.

I'd begrudgingly accept a cutoff where anything prior to a date where terms were explicitly set to include language for data modeling was excluded. It's really dumb that the advent of new technologies just allows companies to profit of anyone's creations with permission.