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comrades, the Protracted People’s War against the liberal hive and haven for bigoted chasers that is lemmy.blahaj.zone has succeeded! blahaj has fallen! or at least fallen off.

really tho, i just checked in on their site to see how its been since defederating. that was only 3 days ago btw! it feels like its been a week lol. their daily user count has fallen by over 1/6th since defed. and while this could be attributed to less traffic during the work week, the posting situation there is abysmal. in the past 24 hours, 78% of the posts came from c/196, making it difficult to tell that their instance is a dedicated queer space. and while they have gained ~30 users since defederation, we have gained over 200! its pretty much just 196 at this point.

while its sad to see a queer space fail, i suspect its for the best. i hope all the anti-capitalists there find their way here, as many already have. especially the trans folk there, its genuinely sad that they feel like they have to accept chasers in their space in order to have a community that accepts them. that is the difference between liberal tolerance and socialist liberation— tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality. may all the blahaj gender diverse who oppose capitalism find their way to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns!!!!

stuff like this are the best “dunks” the 196 reactionaries can manage: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2042262

pathetic

this meme is weak and displays their ignorance. you cant have a conversation with ppl like the OP. they will just bombard you with thought-terminating cliches. gulag gulag! Uyghurs! hologramodor! no food! purges! NKVD KGB Stasi! free Tibet so they can have their wholesome slaves again! Taiwan is a legitimate state!

countless hexbears would be willing and even enthusiastic to have a good faith, respectful, nuanced discussion about these topics with them. but they dont want that. they want to roll in their own shit like a pig with massive balls. the good ones will find us, or other socialist spaces. but for such a small instance, there are too many scratched and soon-to-be scratched liberals for us to do any good with federation.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago (5 children)

hey its me i came here because of the blahaj defed

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

welcome home comrade cat-trans

there are many such cases. a bunch of blahaj users were saying that after defed a bunch of LGBTQ hexbear users would jump ship in favor of blahaj. unsurprisingly, the opposite has happened

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can't imagine anyone who's gotten used to the culture here leaving.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I for one would like to move from the site where people post to the site where there are no posts

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Posters are supposed to move from the area with the highest level of posting density to the lowest - it's just physics

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago

We just can't stop collecting wins.

hexbear-chapochat

Welcome .

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago

Glad to have you back! They defederated from us months ago.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

One of us one of us

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It was the NATO puppet West Germany, who reimprisoned 100,000 gay holocaust survivors. Not the Soviet Union.

EDIT: Yes, I like history: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (16 children)

evil authoritarian tankie redfash cuba: most progressive family code on earth

wholesome nato democracy defender poland: lgbt-free zones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT-free_zone

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago

LGBT-free zone

liberals would accept this as a type of “safe space”

i love bringing up Cuba in these arguments bc it makes their heads spin

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the op of that 196 thread:

First, I’m not a liberal.
Second, it’s fucking shitty that liberal politicians only really give a shit about queer people when it’s convenient. Though your version literally makes no sense because the neoliberal isn’t throwing them in a gulag like, say, Stalin did. Their inaction towards injustice is bad but you’re saying it’s as bad as perpetrating the injustice itself which is just stupid.
Third, this is a tankie-free subreddit, so fuck off.

subreddit

michael-laugh

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the Capitalist USA, it was illegal to be LGBT+ until 2003 (2015 if you count gay marriage being illegal) and several states are now beginning to recriminalize it.

Until the late 2000s' (and even after in some cases) gay clubs and other LGBT+ spaces would be raided by police, brutally arresting and killing LGBT+ people.

Some of the largest news outlets in America are allowed to spead queerphobic propaganda and accuse trans people of grooming and other lies without punishment.

After Russia became capitalist in the 90s', LGBT+ rights have only gotten worse under capitalism, not better.

So where is your "Fuck capitalists" banner, 196?

But please, tell me how evil and scary Stalin was while your own anti-communist utopia rolls back its LGBT+ protections it's only had for last 10 or so years, if you can even call them real protections, Queers have never been truly safe in the streets of the US.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still remember that Orlando mass shooting of the gay nightclub...

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago

I remember being at a nightclub with my bf while reading about it doomjak

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (15 children)

New Hexbear goal: to become the largest LGBTQ+ friendly space on the internet

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

This is genuinely not what I want to see and I have no idea why Ada is being so stubborn about 196. They are turning their queer space into a chaser meme space, and eliminating all the potential it had.

On the offchance that you're reading this, it's really not too late to fix this Ada you just need to bin off that problematic mod and people here would genuinely make the effort to turn the situation around. People want you to make the right decision and will instantly turn around their opinion if it occurs, you are correct that cooperation is better for both spaces, shit like this is so easily resolved.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would ada be reading posts on here. Hexbear defederated from them not the reverse. She thinks scolding the shitty 196 mod a bit is adequate, you don't (I don't either which is why I moved over). In this situation we're going to stay defederated.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because someone might show it to her I dunno, when your name is dropped somewhere people tend to be like "hey they're talking about you [here]" in chat groups etc. That's why it's an off-chance.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago

The cruel dictatorship at blahaj.zone has cut its citizens off from vital posting supplies. Citizens are forced to turn to inferior domestic posts or risk the black market and ostracism. Soon we will be eating the dead. Please Hexbear, my people yearn for freedom.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

more proof behind the pudding that not all trans/queer spaces are safe for trans and queer people. sentiment can be good, but you need to back it up with tanks capabara-tank

queer lives are not up for debate, ban the fuck out of everyone who disagrees

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Vietnam too is in process of implementing LGBT Friendly laws like Cuba. If USSR were here today it would be doing the same instead of what we have today in Eastern Europe/Russia.

U.S. too didn't have legal gay marriage until 2015. So maybe they should look at themselves in the mirror instead of shitting on a country which hasn't existed for over three decades.

Are they "slava ukraini so-true " people? Because, Ukraine is just as unfriendly towards LGBTQ as Russia is.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (10 children)

tbf russia did pass a trans genocide law recently. but i used to help trans refugees leave ukraine before the war even started in 2014, it is not good there for queer people, at all, and anyone who says otherwise is a giant piece of shit

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have gotten over 196... new users

Looks like they can't blå as haj as we can.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't really want to create another thread about their crappy instance, so I'll just add this as a comment here instead:

Is Azov Neo-Nazi? CW: Fascist apologia for a neonazi paramilitary.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

oh god, pass the eye bleach! what is is with liberals and whitewashing nazis?

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago

That post what-the-hell

Are they just being purposefully ignorant about what Cuba and Vietnam have been doing?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago

tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality

trans-heart

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Frankly remarkable projection there, given that it's the US that backs coups to overthrow elected socialist leaders and install fascist dictators like Pinochet or Armas.

They're so confused and arrogantly uninformed. They know a couple of catchphrases and just put them together like madlibs to form their arguments.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Operation IKEA Freedom is commencing according to plan cat-trans transshork-happy hexbear-trans

mission-accomplished mission-accomplished-1 mission-accomplished-2 mission-accomplished

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who cares? They made their decision, we made ours. Let them wallow with their 10 year old memes

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

i simply do not think of them

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