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[–] 273 points 2 years ago (25 children)

It's also just an outright lie. But, I guess that doesn't matter anymore.

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  • [–] 182 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Yeah, it's not all electric, some of the train is just regular matter

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Wait until you learn how molecular bonds work...

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  • [–] [S] 95 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

    I did a little digging and it seems like there's a tiny kernel of fact at the core of this giant turd of a hype-piece, and that is the fact that they electrified this little spur line from Berlin to the new German Tesla factory by using a battery-electric trainset. Which is not a terrible solution for electrifying a very short branch line that presumably doesn't need frequent all-day service, even if it's a bit of a janky approach compared to overhead lines. But hand that off to the overworked, underpaid twenty-two-year old gig worker they've got doing "editing" at Yahoo for two bucks an article, and I guess it turns into "world-first electric wonder train amazes!"

    For a second, though, I read the headline and wondered if Musk and co. had finally looped all the way around to reinventing commuter rail from first principles after all these years of trying to "disrupt" it with bullshit ideas like Hyperloop and Tunnels, But Dumber.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I guess if by a kernel of truth you mean an existing train was used on an existing track, then you could almost make it make sense? But since all of this existed before, it's just a lie.

    I'll also point out that anybody introducing battery electric trains instead of just electrifying the remaining parts of rail is making an astoundingly bad choice, but that's almost certainly Germany and not Tesla.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's yahoo news. It's pure clickbait. Idk why they do this they have some decent other services.

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    [–] 221 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    Just wow… So if you look closely at the picture, you can barely see the number '563' on the train. If you have a look at list of locomotives and railbuses iof DB on Wikipedia, you can see that this train is a Siemens Mireo.

    Now, let's take the headline apart. Is it the first all-electric trai… no! Is it the first accumulator train? Also no, as you can see in the list above, the class 515 exists and the Stadler Flirt Akku has been used on a line since October 2023, Is it the first Siemens Mireo Plus B being used? You guess what, nope. As an example, SWEG is using some of them to bridge non-electrified parts of the track since April 2024.

    So finally, what is special about the Gigatrain? (gosh, I actually really dislike that name) In February 2024, the subsidary 'Smart Train Lease GmbH' of Siemens Mobility has been announced. There you can also lease two Siemens Mireo Plus Bs. Tesla is their very first client. That's it

    Whoops, got longer as expected. In case I made small mistakes, feel free to point it out

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    They aren't saying it's the first electric train, they are saying it's the first all electric "Giga Train".

    It's like how Bros kept trying to imply it was the first gay movie, or even first gay romcom, but it was the first gay romcom that was created and released by a major studio whose initial release was a "wide" release in more than one country.

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    [+] 93 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What the... this is so infuriating to a railfan. It's like they are trying to attach a 2x viewer multiplier by putting Elon-related keyword in it when Tesla has so little to do with it.

    It's not a Tesla train, nor a battery from Tesla, nor operated by Tesla, not even a new route (but granted an expanded timetable)

    I wish media hyped trains like this in general and not limited to implicitly attributing it to Musk (who made hyperloop specifically to distract from High Speed Rail, mind you)... "GIGA TRAIN brings commuters to work", "Hyper train first electric regional service in California - you won't believe the capacity!"

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago

    Generally, I'm against violence towards journalists - but dishonest and manipulative headlines like this tend to make me reconsider my stance, if but for a moment.

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  • [–] 66 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Now, imagine this revolutionary improvement: Find a way of putting the energy source outside of the train somehow, and save on weight by not hauling those heavy batteries around.

    Christ, the amount of times techbros and tesla fanboys have accidentally "invented" trains and trams these past few years is beyond stupid..

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Based on this dumpster fire of a headline, I think the take-away can only be that Siemens and other train manufacturers have to start calling their trains "OMEGA RAIL" and "CHUNGUS 3000" or shit like that so it's worth a news article.

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Wait til they learn about twin story trains. Twice the capacity!

    Edit: And the first gen, a bit less comfortable tho but more reliable.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago*

    It doesn't double the capacity. It's more a 30% increase. And, double-deckers are actually old. They date from the 19th century. In 1855, the Chemin de fer de l'Ouest introduced double-deckers on suburban lines of Paris.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiture_Ouest_%C3%A0_imp%C3%A9riale

    Modern double-deckers date from the 1930s, with the Voiture à étage Etat:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiture_%C3%A0_%C3%A9tage_%C3%89tat

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    [–] 51 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is this like how Apple invented the headphones?

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    NO WAY! Did they just copy the Siemens Mireo and made it a double decker

    It looks even more obvious in the German version of the site where the first picture is literally this one:

    Edit:

    Now that I have taken a closer look I question if the "Tesla" train is even a double decker or actually the Mireo

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    And I am unsure if Yahoo just used a random train as their cover or if this is the Tesla train in question. I am so confused O.o

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    Soo it's not a double decker and it is "Tesla's train" sooo... If I was Tesla I'd get back to the drawing board because I doubt Siemens will be happy with what they did here

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  • [–] [S] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    From the industry journal I linked in another comment -- it's literally just an off-the-shelf Mireo Plus B. That's it. The only thing Tesla about it is that it's serving a spur line connecting Tesla's factory to the existing Berlin light rail network, and was presumably financed by them for the PR benefit of not having the workers at an electric car factory arrive by diesel train.

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The logo on the front is from the NEB, Niederbarnimer Eisenbahn AG, which runs in German province's of Berlin and Brandenburg. No way in hell the Muskrat MAGAT is going to build trains.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    Hype over fake news like this is one major reason how tesla's stock price has gotten as high as it has.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Lol how novel, I use an all electric train every work day, a Stadler Class 777/1 electric multiple-unit fitted with batteries (BEMU).

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The far more important question however is:

    Why tf did they use the color scheme of bwegt?

    I may be an idiot, but I'm 99% certain that this color scheme is only used in Baden-Württemberg - a state that's like 500km away from the Tesla factory.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    oh, Adam Something is going to have a field day with this.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We copied 1960 technology, declared it revolutionary and act as if we invented it all

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    🎶 "I'm a connnnnn mann, or maybe I'm a god? Zoomin‘ round the planet, in my hyper loopin‘ pod..." 🎶

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    tesla launches train

    hey ive seen this episode before; the ending sucked

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Batteries are heavy, Surely there must another way to supply energy to the train...?

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yahoo is just a terrible news source in general tbh

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Yahoo, the cowboys of journalism.

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