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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Uh oh. Inc antivax propaganda bombardment.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can already see people saying you don't have to worry if you don't fuck monkeys.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is mpox, so it's not monkeys you need to avoid, only MPs... Spread the word!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Damn those multiplayers

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea, if you want to see bad look at comments under any mpox story on YT.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I prefer to keep my sanity and what little faith in humanity I have left

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's why it makes me so shocked that Sky is reporting this. Sure, they love overly dramatic and shock headlines but I'm shocked they aren't complaining that the Labor government is being "slow to respond"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do we have a vaccine against mpox?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do we have a vaccine against mpox

Yes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Canada has it but it doesn’t mean they’ll share.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The pox vaccine is ubiquitous. They are a derivative of that which eradicated smallpox in the 80s. It is very likely if you are 40 or older you already have had it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This post gave me the same question and I went and looked a bit. Looks like it: https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/mpox/vaccines/vaccine-recommendations.html

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Can get mpox vaccine at cvs in the US

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wonder what “dewormer” they will latch on to this time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dimethylmercury. They'll never get sick ever again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Am I committing a crime if I spread the rumor that it is the best treatment after investing in a manufacturer/supplier? I'm not famous like a former president who did that, but dimethyl mercury is a lot better substance for achieving my political goals than Ivermectin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Tbh I really hope they collide with some other niche rabid group. Anyone ever look into the Ray Peat forum? It's crazy fascinating for me as someone who finds medicine interesting. The anger these people have about what is "Real Peat" diet vs not is 🤌 like a slice of the Old Internet.

I'd love for antivaxxers to latch onto the Peat diet and try to fight those guys. It would be like Swifties and Kpop stans dueling

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to keep calling it monkeypox, I like the silliness

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

M'pox *tips fedora* ;)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

For those that don't know, mpox rarely spreads outside of "sexual contact" so if you're not a sex worker or go to sex parties, you'll almost certainly be fine. And even if you do get it you'll recover fine as long as you're given basic care.

This isn't anything like covid.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect. Not only can mpox be spread through the air via respiratory droplets, skin contact with contaminated surfaces is also a transmission vector.

The fatality rate is also more than twice that of Covid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

so if you're not a sex worker or go to sex parties, you'll almost certainly be fine

The WHO article you linked below says:

It is recommended for people at high risk to get vaccinated to prevent infection with mpox, especially during an outbreak. This includes:

  • health workers at risk of exposure
  • men who have sex with men
  • people with multiple sex partners
  • sex workers.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So more people are considered high risk than what you said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

When did you last have sex with someone? Was that person a sex worker? Were you having a sex orgy? Why are those the only two options?

You realize people cheat? Probably your hand would cheat if it could get away from you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's none of your business.

Did I ever say they were tbe only two options?

Yes I do realise people cheat?

What does any of this have to do with anything?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, YOU brought it up and regurgitated an old and inaccurate stigma, potentially risking lives. You tell me what sexual health has to do with inaccurate claims by people like you. Why are you commenting here if you know nothing and are just spreading harm?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What stigma did I bring up? Like read my comment again, I didn't say a single negative thing.

I'm litterally just quoting the available info given by the WHO. But given by your smugness I'm guessing you're actually a leading virologist in the Republic of Congo, right? Since you apparently know more than the WHO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You aren't quoting. That wasn't a quote. Stop gaslighting, stop engaging in sophistry, stop being emotionally abusive. It's not appreciated.

You did indeed say negative stuff. Stop gaslighting, stop engaging in sophistry, stop being emotionally abusive. It's not appreciated.

I didn't say I knew more than the WHO. Stop gaslighting, stop engaging in sophistry, stop being emotionally abusive. It's not appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Majority of STIs are not spread by sex workers. Majority of sex workers do not have STIs. The type of sex worker you're referring to (high risk STI group) is usually one of several categories:

  • trafficked minor
  • trafficked adult
  • meth user (meth use in particular is associated with unsafe sex orgies)
  • injectable drug use

That's because these groups come into contact with people who will regularly sexually assault others including via biological warfare like STIs, and due to their status they are unable to say no to the abuse or to use protection like condoms and PreP. Think of the type of guy who pays for a trafficked minor like a 13 year old. Would you trust them if they said their STI status was clean? How does a kid even get access to condoms or money to buy an STI test, or hiw do they drive and get themselves a vaccine? How does an adult human who is essentially a slave do that? These groups are not the same as adult consensual sex workers and if we would decriminalize sex work, it would be easier to find people who are actually a public health risk due to trafficking.

Majority of STIs are in people 25 yrs of age and younger. Then there's another spike for much older people. Both groups are often victims of sexual assault, in fact are the highest demographics for both. Disabled people who are in the highest category for sexual assault likewise have the highest STI numbers. All of these groups are more likely to live in group homes.

Majority of STIs are in people in college or high school. In consensual interactions, these people often have little money, don't understand the risks, don't get tested often, and aren't as likely to wear protection. They are also likely to have very close contact (nonsexual) with peers including living in dorms and participating in extracurriculars.

I think it's weird to slut shame consensual, safe, responsible adult sex like a sex party or sex work. The vast majority of sex workers are not being trafficked and make relatively safe, sane decisions about their own health including using condoms, being vaccinated, and being tested regularly. I think that you should self examine who you're bullying and stigmatizing. No one deserves mpox.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not shut shaming anyone, litterally just stating the facts. I'm involved in the kink scene and have been to sex parties myself. I'm not saying these people "deserve" mpox like you're trying to claim I am, I'm litterslly just saying what the WHO guidance says.

You're talking about the case for STIs in the US. Whereas mpox is primarily spreading in the Reupiblic of the Congo and adjacent countries. Where I imagine the situation with sex workers is different.

And again, you need to stop with your accusatory attitude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The article is about mpox in the UK, a Western country, and most Lemmy users are in the US. Further, my comments about sexual abuse being the reason these groups spread stis is accurate worldwide.

Where does the WHO guidance say "Unless you participate in orgies or are a sex worker, you won't get mpox"??

I can have whatever attitude I please. Maybe stop spreading misinformation first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you are allowed to have whatever attitude you like. Just like I am allowed to completely disregard your opinion, because you're an asshole, that's just trying to feel superior and smug.

So find someone else to harass and insult to make yourself feel big, because I'm going to block you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're allowed to block me. Go ahead. Nothing stopping you. Doesn't bother me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Much of the symptoms are growing hair everywhere and beginning to speak in bro...ken...sen...tences.
Apes to...gether strong.

JK get vaxxed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

More specifically, keep an eye on your local health authorities' recommendations and get vaccinated if you are part of a population recommended to do so.

Mpox affects certain demographics a great deal more than others, and if non-vulnerable people make a run on mpox vaccine in a panic, it could leave a limited supply for those who need it most.