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[-] [email protected] 114 points 11 months ago

This is such a brunch lib response. They definitely know who their base is, and its not people who care about genocide

[-] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

its not people who care about genocide

You mean people who care about false genocides like the one supposedly in Ukraine and China.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

only-throw only false genocides

[-] [email protected] 107 points 11 months ago

There's the tone-deaf idiocy we expect from the Democrats. Whew.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago

Don't worry, there's plenty more where that came from! power-stride

[-] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago

Yeah after a streak of looking like they want to win this was my "ah, there's the Democrats I know" moment.

[-] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago

The fact that most Americans think this is what a progressive looks like shows how fucked we are.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Teddy Roosevelt is most American's idea of a progressive

[-] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Donald Trump Jr. is our most progressive politician and once all the megafauna is extinct it will no longer be possible to be progressive

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

My main cultural knowledge of Teddy Roosevelt is the extremely weird hard on old Cracked had for the guy

[-] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Dude regularly touted the sort of rhetoric we would call 'White Genocide' today. Shaming white women who didn't want to have children and stuff like that.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He was a jock and a bully and people do enjoy that he would occasionally bully upper class people. That was cool but it was simply downstream from it him being terrible to everyone

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Nothing ever happens.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago

oh yeah? how about fuck you

[-] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago

it-is-happening-again

cedar-rapids's response to BLM protesters

[-] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago

We need to see what can be (a Jewish ethnostate), unburned by what has been (decades of indigenous resistance)

[-] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago

Lmao a turbolib in a discord I'm in shared this clip saying its an example of the viral clips that will help her which is so funny.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

"If anything it's the way they protested that undermined their cause since they wouldn't let her speak and they kept interrupting."

[-] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

Remember when BLM protesters interrupted Bernie and he actually shut up and let them talk?

He may be flawed but the US is still worse off without him

[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

I mean, what a fall you would have to take to shut them down after a long history of activism for them. To go from getting arrested protesting with them, to silencing their continued protest, what a fall that would be.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nice representative "democracy" we have. Glad to know the VP represents her constituents. Heil Cocomala Harnut!

[-] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago

volcel-kamala Do not protest. Do not protest.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

template here, this is an update to a previous image that had Jill Biden in a white suit from a magazine cover

[-] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

that is so infantilising i can't even

[-] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

the adults are doing genocide, sweaty

[-] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago
[-] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

it was never a real democracy.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

I honestly feel sick to my stomach about how it seems people have just stopped caring about Palestine since Joe dropped out. I see way more people do the "Trump would be worse" thing, even a lot of people who trashed the concept beforehand! And so many more people are suddenly talking about it like a "minor foreign policy issue."
It felt like something was in the air, something was about to happen, something was about to change and now people are supporting genocide and talking about harm reduction again.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

It's just copium hope that kamala will be better on Palestine. There is a lot of evidence that it isn't true but people hope it is since she doesn't own the past 300 days of slaughter.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Last time the Dems won without Michigan was 1976. I've thought the Dems were making better moves in recent weeks but idk, this seems dumb as hell. I don't expect her to do anything good about the genocide, but actively antagonizing pro-Palestine people seems stupid.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I knew this was going to happen, I said it the day Joe dropped out. People voting uncommitted were a mixed demographic of actual principled voters standing against a genocide, and disillusioned liberals who wanted anyone but Joe Biden to run. I believe the latter is the larger group. Like others have said after the fact, Kamala ticks all the liberal identity boxes, and now, Waltz also slots right in to cover all the other groups.

My understanding, too, is that the rest of the audience tried to shout them down, which is telling. The way this was relayed to me when I first heard about it was via a TikTok where the commentator referred to the chanters as "Hecklers", also telling. Reports are, Harris, before taking the stage, spoke with leaders of the uncommitted group and wanted to get contact information to start a dialog, ~~expressing interest in a possible arms embargo against Israel (I have not verified this)~~ See this comment for more details.

But if that was true, why is this the response she gives to their chants? What is she signaling in this moment? She's clearly not talking to them, but instead talking to everyone else in the room. Her words are painting the chanters as opposition. She tries at least one time before this comment to calm their chants. Did they get under her skin, and is this a raw reaction to their disruption? Is it a calculated message? Either could be true.

If she really was trying to make a connection with this group of voters before getting on stage, then why did she not take the opportunity to address the issue? Why not say on stage that she is coordinating conversations with their group, that she wants to hear them out directly, and that their concerns are valid? Either this is a true showing of her actual political savvy (as in, a lack thereof), or she is giving up the game right here in front of them.

Regardless of intention, the message is loud and clear. Vocal support for an anti-genocide position from her is in opposition to their campaign. Even if she doesn't believe that, her words imply it. As others have pointed out, Michigan is an important state, and the voters who can make or break their chances are not white well-meaning liberals, they are Muslim Americans who have real stakes at play. The position of the next president on Israels Genocide have real, material impact on them, and I doubt they will remain silent about it.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I’d be interested in any evidence supporting this part, because it feels like cover and entirely contradicted, as you pointed out, by her actions in the speech

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

close friends are straight up telling others to vote kamala 'because project 2025' in the most cringe liberal manner possible.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

I wonder if their honeymoon phase with Kopmala will end before or after the election. The protests need to continue. Genocide is genocide, and until there’s a stop to it, they shouldn’t have a single moment of peace.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Joe Biden's mush brain isn't the only reason they've been avoiding public events. This was the other big reason, and will remain a big problem for them.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

anyone have a link to the clip?

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