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[–] [email protected] 181 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Jesus. Republicans will tax anything and anyone except rich people and rich people accessories.

Technically, we already do pay more in taxes because we don't get to claim dependents or receive any child tax credits.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If those temporarily embarrassed millionaires could read, they'd be really upset

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, on theme and true. Well done.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Deleted no longer relevant

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

lemmy.world had a momentary glitch it looked like. It is showing now I think

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah was getting a cloudflare error for 2-3 minutes. Seems good now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

They really want that "trickle down" to work. Remember, Putin is still holding Trump's piss tapes. They're all absolutely fascinated by pissing on people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah I always hear about all these people and what they're going to do with their tax returns. Mine is always a tax bill ever since Trump

[–] [email protected] 102 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Reading the article he also said that parents should be able to cast votes on behalf of their minor children, which is much more alarming to me.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Let me guess, conservatives have larger families than liberals and progressives?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago

Educated families have fewer children, I'll let you connect the rest of the dot.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

LGBTQ+ people have a higher rate of living singly or in a relationship without children. No doubt also a tendency to vote Democrat. Conservative, anti-abortion Christians have some of the largest families, so get more votes. It's pretty clear what he's up to.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

These days, look for any family in America with 5 or more minor children and find a "devout Christian" as the patriarch.

Mormons are famous for this, and they support their breeder mentality by tapping into the same government resources they say they despise, sometimes venturing into fraud.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know a few that can field a full baseball team. I have no idea how they go anywhere together as a full family.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

BRB, going to go adopt a couple dozen kids.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And frozen eggs are children, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Conservatives hate this one trick

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because people who use the least civic resources should pay the most?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Tbf children are a super valuable thing to a country.

It's why governments freak when birth rates get low.

The machine needs bodies to function after all.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They'll go so far as to do anything except any of the things that make happy, productive people more likely to feel inclined or comfortable having children.

Parental leave so people can be there when their child is born? Affordable or accessible daycare? A world that accommodates any workplace flexibility? Basic affordable healthcare? A world with some degree of optimism for the state they're bringing their children into?

Nah, a once a year tax rebate covering a month or two of daycare should be more than enough.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Punishing people with higher taxes for not making a decision because they feel like it's already too hard and expensive to make that decision in an effort to fix that problem is surely going to help!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Sure, but incentivizing having kids is different than screwing over the people who don't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It's also why the abortion and birth control issues are front and center for the GOP, they know that they aren't going to convince any new voters to join so they need to rely on their constituents giving birth to and raising the new generation of conservative voters.

Catholic church did the same thing for the same reason.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is literally already the case. Parents get tax deductions.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

He's calling for a world where people are more or less coerced into having children by punitive taxes if they don't have any.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

JD Vance has never argued for higher tax rates on couch fuckers. Coincidence?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

But did he argue for higher tax rates on dolphin sex aficionados?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Considering that parents get a Child Tax Credit ($2,000 per child I think?) and I pay property taxes to fund public schools (I don't mind) I'd say I'm already being taxed in order to subsidize other people's children

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I have no problem paying to subsidize children (regardless of who their parents are, children aren't property), because I care about the future of this country and those children will run this country one day. I just don't want the law written to punish me for not having kids, especially not when they're talking about taking my voting rights away over it.

Give parents a bigger tax credit. Increase taxes for schools. Throw as much money at the children as you want, I won't complain, I'll keep paying my share and will celebrate a society that actually prioritizes outcomes for all children, instead of just children of wealthy parents.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Government so small it can only oppress the poor and middle class.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

What in the fuck is with this guy? He's got some kink towards punishing people without kids, or what?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (6 children)

It's self-hate for being a closeted sofasexual.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My question, what about thise that have had miscarriages, stillborn, children that have died before 18? Since according to them,, life begins at conception, do they not count? Or only children that can contribute to the labor force or military service count?

And what an ass he is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nobody counts but him and his lifestyle, apparently. If you're not doing what he's doing, go fuck yourself.

I honestly just think he realized too late that he got suckered into a lifestyle he just fucking hates, so his jealousy turns to people living the life he wants, so he's out to make them as miserable as he is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is a very real sentiment in conservative circles who believe that people exist to reproduce.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They only want more people to churn out more people so they can become uneducated pawns.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Can't openly buy slaves anymore, instead you subjugate them by forcing them to procreate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah. The new class war. Parents vs the childless. What bullshit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So I just have to impregnate a bunch of women and I get to live for free right? What's the America that JD Vance wants?

They have completely flipped around. They are now the welfare Queens. They are the triggered snowflakes. They are the one's calling for defunding law enforcement.

It's almost like they stand for absolutely nothing

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

God damn lol.

Trump never had this douche-canoe vetted, and it shows with horrible clip after horrible clip just pouring out.

I feel for the Harris campaign staffers who have to listen to hours apon hours of his podcast horror shows, but they are doing the lords work. This stuff is campaign gold.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Or he did. It the people vetting him (including Trump) like is entirely unamerican ideas.

What’s hilarious we already pay more in taxes anyway. (We get substantially fewer deductions, for example.)

I say unamerican because he wants to give parents more voting power with more kids

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Peter Thiel has been pimping this edgelad out to every single political vacuum he can find, and Vance has magnificently fucked up every place he's been put, so here's hoping the trend continues!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't Fascist Italy do this at some point in time?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh Flipper Vance… why are you the way that you are?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

How about since he views parents as having more of a stake in americas future, they can pay extra taxes. Why the fuck would anybody pay more taxes for less representation, not that we have much anyway for what we already do pay.

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