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OK Boomer Shooter: How indie games breathed new life into a dying genre (www.inverse.com)

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[-] Its_Always_420@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I don't even think boomers played these when they were popular. At the time they were still way too scared of technology, think flashing 12:00 on the vcr jokes. These games are Gen-x/millennials childhood shooters.

[-] mephiska@artemis.camp 14 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Carmack is Gen X.

[-] Dukeofdummies@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

... man I never made that connection. I thought it was because there was never an explosion smaller than somebodies head. If it doesn't cause a boom it's a gun that shouldn't be in a boomer shooter.

[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's a joke.

It caught on because boomer is a synonym for old and a synonym for loud / explosive etc.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

Try harder, it hasn't caught on.

[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

lol

[-] MossBear@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It's like what someone who wasn't even born when these games were made would think. Just say no to "boomer shooter". Classic FPS is fine. Old School FPS is fine. Anything but "boomer shooter".

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

the single most influential person involved in the genre: John Carmack.

Why would an engine developer be responsible game design? Are you confusing the Johns and meant John Romero?

And what would the genre be called then? John-like?

boomers didn’t make the genre, boomers don’t deserve the credit.

Neither did Castlevania in Metroidvania. Metroid founded the genre a decade before Symphony of the Night game out, it's just that it was called a side-scrolling action adventure. That's a bit long, though, so a shorthand was needed.

Personally, I would not mind "Retro FPS" but it's just a label and in the end doesn't really matter much.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

“Metroidvania” is a bad term too

[-] discusseded@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Dude, if you think the game engine designer and programmer had nothing to do with the end result then you're out of your mind. Romero did some design, play-tested, and wrote some utility applications for game development. He is not the star of Doom by a long shot. There were others, but Carmack was the music maker, the dreamer of the dreams at that company.

You do know that symphony of the night is not the first Castlevania, right? The first Metroid and first Castlevania games both came out in 1986.

Get some culture Van Winkle, you have been asleep for too long.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Dude, if you think the game engine designer and programmer had nothing to do with the end result then you’re out of your mind.

You're projecting waaaay to much into what I wrote. Carmack did not design the game but obviously the engine is part of the overall package. Reading my statement into saying that he "had nothing to do with the end result" is insane.

You do know that symphony of the night is not the first Castlevania, right? The first Metroid and first Castlevania games both came out in 1986.

Yes, and for a decade Castlevania games were not "Metroidvanias". That's why the term makes no sense to be part of the genre but I also don't throw a tantrum over unimportant things on the internet. Relax.

Get some culture Van Winkle, you have been asleep for too long.

Why are you so angry? I did not attack you or your mom. It's just about video games. Chill, man.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

Can we ban the use of the term “boomer-shooter” please?

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Boomer shooter is a moniker to try to be cute with language. Because these shooters go "Boom".

Fuck that noise. Call it a Classic Doom-like.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Nah, Genres being named after the first game that does it is pretty uninspired. It almost makes it sound like players can't articulate what makes the game interesting.

[-] legion@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Call it a Classic Doom-like.

That's basically reverting back to calling games "DOOM clones".

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

That’s basically reverting back to calling games “DOOM clones”.

Calling something like Amid Evil with its spectacular map architecture a mere Doom clone does it a disservice, though, because Doom closes were basically flat and had 90° walls. Descent and Quake 1 aren't clones of Doom either.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Still better than boomer shooter

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Fuck that noise. Call it a Classic Doom-like.

Except that other than a few GZDoom-based games, Dusk and such have more in common with Quake than Doom, being fully 3D.

[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

But then the media post won't be totes edgy and get people to click on it....

[-] ramblinguy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Maybe it should be called Doomer Shooter instead

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Then you're catering to the peppers

[-] _sideffect@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Too much cod/battlefield crap... People were sick of it and wanted to go back to the good old doom days.

Lots of indie titles did that, then doom 2016 propelled it into the mainstream again which gave the green light for even more games being made.

I love it! My favorite genre

[-] Atralyx@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

It's silly to even bring generations into this or most topics, just another politically driven divider in order to down one group of people and boost another's ego. In most scenario's this is the case anyway, yeah silly and childish.

[-] thattysonguy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Dude it's just a funny name that rhymes, get over yourself.

[-] Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

I really don't get the hate over the term.

It was ok to use "Boomer" as an euphemism to call someone old, but make it about games that often don't take themselves seriously and are a throwback to when gaming started to grow massively, and it sucks?

[-] 2tone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Wow, no mention of Prodeus

[-] _sideffect@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Amazing game

[-] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Boom shooter, OG FPS, I don't care what you call it. Just more please.

[-] NinjaYeti76@mastodon.social 5 points 2 years ago

@woelkchen it would be nice if people stopped conflating Gen X with boomers because we want nothing to do with them. If it's a joke, it's not funny to me. We dislike boomers as much as every other generation after them. Nobody gives a shit about GenX, I get it, but could you please do us the favor of not conflating us with boomers?

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

could you please do us the favor of not conflating us with boomers?

I? I did not write the article. I just found it interesting and crossposted it here and I don't care what others use as a shorthand for fast-paced, pixelated FPS games.

[-] Infinity187@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Lol, boomer shooter.....wtf

[-] dingus182@endlesstalk.org -4 points 2 years ago

"Admittedly, most boomer shooter fans are likely Gen-Xers and Millennials, but they’re still co-opting the term in a sarcastic but positive way that conveys the old-school nature of this niche genre."

TLDR: Ignorant statement by ignorant generation. Maybe they could do better with JAVA.

[-] s_s@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Java programming language not even based on dem beans WTFolio?

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