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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Never had that problem, but I do hate it that automatics start going when you lift the break rather than when you press the gas (and engage the clutch).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

An automatic car has no clutch; automatic transmissions aren't just manual transmissions that do the work for you. It has a thing called a torque converter which is kind of a hydraulic pump and hydraulic motor in one unit which allows the engine to deliver torque and yet still slip.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I've driven a manual once - in a parking lot. Most of my driving has been in an automatic. I agree with this. I should have to press the "go" pedal to go, not just release the "stop" pedal. Thankfully, I now have an EV where I can choose to have it stop when I release the "go" pedal and not go again until I press the "go" pedal.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (5 children)

My car is manual, and my work car was automatic, I've done this several times

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What happened to that statue lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

It hit the extra wide brake pedal instead of the non-existent clutch pedal.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How could that possibly happen? Do you left-foot-brake?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

... no, but you left foot clutch, and the brake pedal in an automatic is the width of both pedals in a manual. Forget, floor the "clutch" to shift, and that's that. Just hope you forget when you first start going rather than when getting up to speed on a highway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (9 children)

and the brake pedal in an automatic is the width of both pedals in a manual

Yeah... no.

The clutch would be to the left of both pedals in an automatic. Your foot rests in the empty space left of the brake pedal, usually there's some kind of footrest roughly where the clutch would be. If anything you'd slam on that rest. Lifting your left foot off that rest (where the clutch you intend to slam would be) to hit the center pedal (which is where the brake is in any car) makes zero sense as a potential mixup. Not to mention it would feel extremely unnatural to operate a pedal so far right with your left foot if you tried.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Okay. Well, it's happened to me... twice. I don't know what to tell you. It's a real thing that happens.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The footrest is still there in a manual car. The brake pedal is smaller, the clutch in between.

When you brake you hit the clutch with the left foot and brake with the right one on the brake pedal. Unintentionally smashing the wider brake pedal can happen if you switch from a smaller car to one with a very wide brake pedal. (Mercedes have quite wide brake pedals, for example)

It also happened a few times to me over my. life until I got used to put my left foot very close to the seat when driving automatic, so I don't subconsciously use it. (Just "away" from where I'd have it in a manual car)

It typically happens if you need to do emergency braking anyways and just all the reflexes kick in. In normal situations it never happened to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

The brake pedal in automatics is twice as wide as a brake pedal in manual cars.

No one is intentionally hitting the brake pedal. They're moving their foot to push in a clutch pedal that doesn't exist, and accidentally hitting the left hand side of the wide ass brake pedal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

If you are used to driving a manual, you don't rest your foot on the foot rest area, you keep it just about to push the clutch. Also, saying the brake pedal is the full width of two pedals is wrong, but it is certainly wider. I have gone for the clutch in an automatic once and just barely caught the edge of the brake pedal. The results were very confusing, and without exaggerating it took me 5-10 seconds to figure out what I had done. It was while driving my mom's car with her in it and she looked at me with the most "what the fuck are you doing?" look she has ever made.

This was all over twenty years ago but yes, it is definitely possible.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

No, you're used to pressing the clutch when you're about to brake so you reach for the left pedal with your left foot out of habit and surprise mother fucker, it's the brake pedal!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I've done this in my ambulance and nearly ate the steering wheel. All that weight DOES NOT like coming to a sudden stop

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Every once in a blue moon, I will slam my left foot into an empty space on the floor.

The brake is a right foot pedal, and I'm not sure what models others are speaking of when they say automatic brake pedals are wider. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.

I think it's been over twenty years since I've driven a manual transmission. I wonder if I could still do it. In my younger years when such cars were still common, it was second nature, but here 'murca, it's tough to even find one if you want one anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

We have both types at home and yes the brake pedal on the automatic is twice as wide as the gas one. The only way for me to prevent using my left foot is to have it on the little rest spor on the left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

This

VS this

The brake pedal in the first picture is more than twice as wide as the accelerator, and it's only about ~50% wider in the second picture

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a guy who dailys a manual and weekend woriors a automatic car from the 50s it gets even more confusing because dispute not having a clutch it does have a floor dimmer switch so I still have 3 pedals and if I screw it up at night then sorry about blinding the guy in front of me with my upgraded led headlights

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My parents 77 ford maybe f-150 (not sure if they were called that yet--actually I think it was something starting with an E) had the floor dimmer switch.

On topic though, I have driven manuals for 31 years now and currently have 3 5-speeds and 2 automatics in my driveway and I've never done this. What's wrong with you people?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're new to automatics, or don't drive them often, the trick is to tuck your left foot behind your right leg to stop you from doing this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Or just cut it off tbh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think you'll have to explain to most of the audience what a clutch is

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The clutch is a third pedal to the left of the brake which lets you disengage the engine and transmission so you can change the gear then let the pedal out, engaging the new gear.

With a clutch, the brake pedal is usually really narrow. So when you get into an automatic instincts will tell you to press the clutch and change gears but that pedal doesn't exist and the wide brake pedal is there instead. Instead of changing gears, you slam the brake.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also you press the clutch pedal a lot harder and quicker than the brake pedal so you really slam it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I actually have done this in my auto Civic after daily driving my manual Prelude for a while. The good thing is I was only moving about 8 miles an hour when it happened, so it looked weird. Would be kind of cool to have the narrow brake pedal in the Civic lol

But yeah, I've been thinking about swapping the auto Civic for a manual Accord of the same vintage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Needs to explain why they think the clutch would be so far to the right.

I'm thinking the OP doesn't understand how to drive a manual.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wider pedal in an automatic. You can catch the edge of it if you're going for the clith

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You probably shouldn't go for the clit while driving

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The cluthhy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

A lot of cars with automatics and manuals have slightly different brake pedal sizes for the same models (bigger on automatics usually, takes a bit of the space a clutch might). So theoretically it makes some sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or they don't know how to drive automatic and brake with their left foot. Either way, it doesn't check out

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I've done it before. Granted it was one of the first times I'd driven an auto, but the reflex to engage the clutch for rolling to a stop, combined with the extra wide brake pedal can be a real gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Eh there's also sometimes the foot e brake and sometimes when you're thinking really fast and maybe have done a few switching from car to car you might just try to start a car and move with the e brake engaged thinking it was a clutch

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably because we don't dead reckon off the position of the gas pedal, but rather, our mental shortcut is, "clutch is furthest left pedal."

As others have said, brake on automatic tends to be a wide pedal. Pedals on a smaller car or sports car tend to be small and very close together for heel and toe and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Pedals on a smaller car or sports car tend to be small and very close together

Exactly. Nobody is making this mistake in a semi, with the throttle and brake all the way on the right and the clutch (if it exists) all the way on the left, and a huge gap in between, but a little car, and big feet? Absolutely

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I've had to drive manuals at work and after a day of it I do this driving home at least twice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When you give a cheap axe to your wife as a anniversary present.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I understood this joke... then felt sad because I felt old... then felt mad because I miss my manual cars...

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