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[-] [email protected] 120 points 2 weeks ago

Acts 4:34-36

"For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles’ feet, and they would be distributed to each as any had need."

They mean this Christianity, right???

[-] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Somehow that translates to you have to give 10% of your income to Pastor Brian. Any other form of charity is great but you should still give Pastor Brian his 10% because he's doing a lot by telling you to give him 10% of your income.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

The vast majority of pastors are volunteers or bi-vocational. And yes there are abuses. But also lots of them giving their time and resources to care for the under-resourced. My church''s sr. pastor is going from full time to bi-vocational this year because inflation hit the church and his family. But our church distributed 12 million pounds of food since covid

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ok? So now he's earned 10% of my income?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

The tithe doesn't go to a pastor, it goes to fund the whole ministry. People working full time deserve a living wage, he's no different. Most Christians don't tithe anyway, it's usually 15% of the people giving 85% of the funds.

Our church distributed those millions of pounds of food on a $350k total budget each year which includes still paying mortgage on an under-maintained property. The total payroll and benefits for two full time and four part time staff was $165k last year. I don't think they're robbing people who chose to support that.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I really not sure your point. Does acts tell you that God requires you to give 10% of your income?

Your church sounds like an outlier. Many of the church I've seen have been seeded by larger churches and ministries which they are then indebted to. Most of which would not be so forthcoming with their financials.

Thats not the question though. Why is it a church would say that tithing 10% of your income is a requirement?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Because it's a tradition from the old testament that some (by no means all) churches use. It's nowhere near as universal as your own anecdotal references seem to imply.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yours is the only ethical church.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” – sounds familiar 🤔

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah there’s a reason a chunk of early communists were Christian pacifists

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Christian communism is a theological view (with some historic precedent) that believes Jesus and his apostles were the first communists, so the overlap is clearly there.

[-] [email protected] 84 points 2 weeks ago

Not THAT Christianity. The war hungry, blood thirsty, brown people hating, brainwashing Christianity!

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

which does all of it's atrocities out of love

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Love for only those that are worthy .... everyone else is an animal that is working for Satan and should be killed in the name of God

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, yes, the Crusaders. Using religion to further the state since the HRE.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly! People keep confusing Christianity with the bible but the former is a patriotic American religion and the latter is middle eastern leftist propaganda

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

And prevent anyone from being really rich.

And prevent banks from getting too big.

And be hospitable to refugees.

And a whole lot of other things that Y’all Qaeda don’t want.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

In many historical societies including ancient Christian, Jewish, and Islamic societies, usury meant the charging of interest of any kind, and was considered wrong, or was made illegal.[3]

BTW chrishitery should be the next capitalist McCarthyism. Muhh! red hats!

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago
  • Deuteronomy 23:19-20 – “^19^ You shall not charge interest to your countrymen: interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest. ^20^ You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.”
  • Exodus 22:25 – “^25^ If you lend money to My people, to the poor among you, you are not to act as a creditor to him; you shall not charge him interest.”
  • Deuteronomy 15:1-3 – “^1^ At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts. ^2^ And this is the regulation for the release of debts: every creditor is to forgive what he has loaned to his neighbor; he shall not require it of his neighbor and his brother, because the Lord’s release has been proclaimed. ^3^ From a foreigner you may require it, but your hand shall forgive whatever of yours is with your brother.”
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[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, no this is the part of Christianity where we convert heretics. With heavy automatic weaponry

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

"I say the whole world must learn of our peaceful ways.

By force!"

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Ha.. this is an obligation in Islam. I rather my tax dollars help the needy than help my nation and or other nations bomb nations.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

this is an obligation in Islam.

Obligation doesn't mean they'll ever apply it. They only ever mention such when it's convenient, to make themselves look like better people. All Abrahamic religions are this way(doesn't mean any other religion's any better either). I live in a muslim country, it's just another tool of the state & the ultra rich to control people.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

"You don't actually read the bible, you just cherry picked some bits out of the atheist meme book" - actual response I've gotten when I've brought this up.

[-] Squirrel 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Funny, the whole thing is supposed to be applicable. They can't just ignore the parts that fit your terrible atheist agenda. And these points certainly aren't a matter of ignored context.

I've actually had other Christians argue against the message of love preached by Jesus, saying it's inapplicable here or there. Of course, I can't be a true Christian if I want equal rights for "the gays," healthcare for all, or any of the other various far left (for the US) views I hold.

Note: I'm a Christian who firmly supports the separation of church and state, sooooo...

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Sneaky little atheistses, always being tricksy to outsmart the omnipotent & omniscient creator and maintainer of existence itself, precious!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

The government is going to force all women to have abortions to prove they’ve been faithful

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

You mean with a magic potion of dirty water that should not by any mechanism cause an abortion that doubled as a paternity test because God would only cause the abortion if she cheated.

Realistically this probably mostly served to cow men into accepting that their wife's child is theirs regardless of any suspicions because God said so. There's a reason being Jewish is matrilineal.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

... As a Christian, I approve.

The idea that the government should run off of some merciless view that the principles of free market capitalism dictate who eats and who doesn't is completely bizarre.

I have nothing against capitalist Christians who think that the principles of capitalism are generally fine and that, otherwise, we have an obligation as Christians to feed the poor and it just so happens to not be the role of government, but any explicitly Christian state has to feed the poor.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Narrator:

They didn’t

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

That's accurate.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

The us government should give all the money to the Vatican.

Lmao.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

The pope would just use it to fund a war in the holy land. Wait a second...

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously, he meant Maronite Christianity, which is the only^tm^ true^tm^ christianity^tm^

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