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Just saw All Quiet on the Western Front on Netflix (hexbear.net)
submitted 3 years ago* by to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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I read the book as a teenager but seeing it in live-action was brutal. You forget that soldiers used gas and fucking flamethrowers on people, and they did it so their ruling class can get even wealthier.

Remembering that the causes of that war were about European empires trying to carve up Germany because capital had reached its zenith under the pre-war status quo unless it acquired new markets and territories to expand into was just eye-opening.

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[–] 1 point 3 years ago* (4 children)

Remembering that the causes of that war were about European empires trying to carve up Germany because capital had reached its zenith under the pre-war status quo unless it acquired new markets and territories to expand into was just eye-opening

does the movie attempt to show this?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 years ago* (3 children)

    I'm really just channeling from memory Luxemburg *Call to the Workers of the World" and Lenin's Imperialism: Highest Stage of Capitalism

    The film kind of portrays it, or hints at it: the terms of the peace treaty were portrayed as not just humiliating but impoverishing.
    e: they also hinted that the social democrats felt a pressure to acquiesce to the armistice to prevent "Bolshevism" from taking over since the war had exhausted the legitimacy of the imperial government and the successor government if peace didn't follow soon. Keeping capitalism alive meant to accept severe loss to prevent total loss to the communists in Germany and throughout Europe.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    The Imperialism of all countries knows no “understanding,” it knows only one right – capital’s profits: it knows only one language – the sword: it knows only one method – violence. And if it is now talking in all countries, in yours as well ours, about the “League of Nations,” “disarmament,” “rights of small nations,” “self-determination of the peoples,” it is merely using the customary lying phrases of the rulers for the purpose of lulling to sleep the watchfulness of the proletariat.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1918/11/25.htm

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    • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Feeding an entire generation into a meat grinder in Flanders because line must go up.

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    [–] 0 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I'm about halfway through imperialism the highest stage of capitalism and it completely broke my brain that WWI was just monopolies needing to carve up other nations for money. Not that an oopsie occured due to alliances and things just got out of hand.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

    It was a little bit an oopsie as none of them anticipated the war getting as out of hand as it did. What upset the apple cart was German midwar discovery of the haber process which allowed them to continue manufacturing explosives and fertiliser long after the other powers had projected they would run out of nitrates

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (3 children)

    Wasn't that Haber also jewish, and his work would later be used to make Zyklon B? Or am I thinking of a different German chemist who contributed heavily to the war effort in WWI and then had most of his family sent to Dachau?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    yeah but part of his contribution to the war effort was the invention of chemical warfare so he's still a controversial figure

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    The Great War was your standard imperialist war, but instead of picking on defenseless nations, the imperialists set on each other.

    Politicians like Otto von Bismarck knew that they must not fight among themselves and tried to keep the peace, but stony-hearted sociopaths like Wilhelm II would have no part in it and would never be happy unless they could read about their pissing matches in the newspapers.

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