Nihilism status: owned : chapotraphouse

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To all dorks saying "Nihilism isn't about being depressed, it's about [text length of an average leftist meme]" I just ate a really good garlic bread and don't give a shit about what niche-ee had to say. All that time you spent typing out your dork 95 thesis on posting could have been used that to make some delicious garlic bread but you didn't

I would be a depressed nihilist if I were you, a person sans garlic bread

Coat whole peeled garlic with olive oil in an oven safe bowl or dish, roast it in the oven at °425 for like 20-30 minutes. Bam. Garlic confit and garlic infused olive oil. Confit Keeps in the fridge for a few weeks. Take some of your confit and mash it together with butter, some of the olive oil, and whatever seasonings you have. Honey or something spicy is a good twist. Spread on bread with cheese then throw it in the oven

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Your OP meme is nihilist and existentialist. The “yet we dance” is saying “yes there’s no meaning, yet we dance”. That’s an existential nihilist position

Are you getting mad at your own meme?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Mad at dorks trying to make me learn philosophy

I will never read philosophy or theory

The Gay Sciences indeed

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I need my pussy eaten

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Who need they nilussy ate?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

volcel-judge

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

You get it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. It’s rather absurd that I get to live at all.

I feel like I understand the Buddha better as years go by. I want to enjoy this strange and mysterious opportunity to be without becoming too attached to all these temporary things, myself included. Indeed, my life today looks nothing like it did 10 years ago. I’m not sure I am the same person. In many ways, it’s like every day we die and become something new.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

happy for you that your quality of life is enough that it's "get to" and not "have to".

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

even the poorest monk can find moments of joy and happiness that give meaning. I wouldn't be blasé

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

fuck yeah bro give me 1 second of joy and 86.359 seconds of misery every day and i'll love life bro

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

unironically, yes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

disgost

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For context I was born a poor Egyptian and lived through the so-called Arab spring and personally saw murder and death. I’m not some coddled imperialist, and I feel like I have a better connection to life than the comfortable yanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

congrats on dodging the myriad mental illnesses you could've caught from that trauma. do you have an effective clinical treatment for major depression or just survivorship bias?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh I have all kinds of mental illnesses you obviously don’t follow my posting notoriety do you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i don't really retain usernames, reddit habit.

anyway, the ratio as previously described should not be acceptable to people, and to me it sounds exactly like liberal "know your place" kinda shit to say it is.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Who said it should be acceptable? You are drawing all kinds of conclusions I never said.

For me, life is always worth experiencing regardless of said “ratio”. That’s an entirely separate issue of how we ought to arrange society or what standards we should accept

I fundamentally reject such crude utilitarian calculuses of life as Malthusian and not life affirming. This type of utilitarian calculus is what leads to Canada euthanizing all of its mentally ill population

Palestinians in Gaza are experiencing hell, and facing it bravely. Should they all commit suicide to escape their “bad ratios”? Should they flee to another country and let the Zionists win since it would improve their own lives? Should they cease to have children when they may face bad ratios?

There is more to life than pleasure and pain. Sometimes we need optimism and faith and collective purpose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

suppose it's only fair that you take a turn at drawing conclusions i never said, and it's absolutely wild to romanticize getting genocided.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

The Palestinians who die in battle are glorious martyrs. There's no undue "romanticization" they are heroes beyond anything you or I could ever accomplish. Maybe you can't see this in your malthusian calculus, and that's why you would never understand their resilience or be able to do it yourself.

It’s obviously horrible that they are experiencing genocide, the mindset they have that allows them to endure it is a revolutionary spirit that your antinatalist Malthusian cynicism could never create. I’m asking you to please think like a Palestinian with optimism. Should they stop having kids cause bad ratios? Doesn’t your defeatism assist the genocide? Should the Palestinians not have revolutionary faith and optimism despite all odds?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t claim that it’s universally worthwhile. It just is what it is until it isn’t.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And it isn't what it isn't until it is. Swapping around words and dualities is not wisdom, it's sophistry.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I believe you're missing the forest for the trees. Words are signposts, tools. It doesn't mean literal vacuous truth. The phrase is illustrative, of course.

In this case, "is what it is" means forgoing judgement because it doesn't change what already is the case. This seems fundamental to Buddhist teaching that was mentioned in the root comment. This attachment and resistance is, to some interpretations, the source of suffering. At least that's how it was taught to me during my short time living at my local temple.

"Until it isn't" refers to death.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not missing the forest for the trees, I'm telling you that you are looking at a desert with a scrub brush, insistent it's a forest.

It is vacancy masquerading as truth. I am perfectly aware of Buddhist dualisms and detachment theory. However, per Wittgenstein, there is no real wisdom or metaphysical truth to be gained in phraseology and word games. Particularly if they are readily interchangable with their contradictions. It can be fun, but not nessecerily wise or meaningful.

'Isn't what it isn't" means foregoing judgement because it doesn't change what already isn't the case. This attachment and resistance is, to some interpretation, the source of suffering.

'Until it is' refers to death.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

However, per Wittgenstein, there is no real wisdom or metaphysical truth to be gained in phraseology and word games.

They aren't playing word games, you are merely interpreting that way. They are conveying a message via the words to you, one you reject without reason

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Ah but have you considered that some of us are into that shit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Actually I’m fine being attached to temporary things, experiencing loss and negative emotions is something I consider healthy for me. I don’t understand why we have these expectations for ourselves that we have to all become beings separate from the reality around us, and deny our emotions and feelings. Feeling remorse and sadness that something is gone does not demand that you cause harm because of it, and the fact we fear that remorse and sadness, not in the normal sense of trying to avoid it, but outright opting out of caring about what we lose or gain, means we haven’t learned to be a living being at all. I think maybe teaching people to feel pain and remorse in healthy ways may even lead to more happiness overall than trying to prevent it at all costs.

Edit: It makes me sad that I will die someday, but accepting that it makes me sad and yet I cannot change it makes much more sense to me than trying to change the fact I am fundamentally sad or attached to this life in the first place. I can accept my emotions and the reality around me at the same time, and in places I cannot, I think it is important to remember that we often experience emotions for a reason, because we are beings capable of changing things for ourselves and others. The important part is to ensure it does not let us hurt people (when not hurting people is a practical option)

Of course others might not feel the same way as me. But everyone is different

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

But my skills in fromsoft games will seize to exist

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

existential nihilism doesn't require that there is no meaning, just that there is no inherent meaning. Meaning can still be created and received through recognition of others.

Those who stop at the breakdown of old morality and wallow in filth are nothinglords who missed the point of breaking down the old social constructs, that is, to build new better ones and even later break those down again and so on... That is what history is, that is what the dialectic is - the eternal process of change and exchange.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There is objectively no meaning in the universe, but IMO nihilism is cringe. Absurdism is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

absurdism is also cringe because it implies that we should be content with a reality of meaninglessness rather than forging things that are meaningful to us. indeed the problem of the Absurd is not real, an issue only present in a culture that is used to relying on God for meaning

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I definitely am more sympathetic to Hegelian ideas of meaning, in that I believe the connections and dialectical relation between people is where meaning is created and received. Meaning originates in the area between you and I, we both create it and then get it back - that is between two equal comrades.

There’s all types of unequal relations such as master-slave or tenant-landlord or employee-employer or two parties at total war. These create distorted and off balanced meaning that has to be enforced with violence and are filled with contradiction. At some point they will necessarily end.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Oh I should clarify Absurd-problem-like symptoms can also be caused by depression caused by living in shitsholeland so don’t take this as me saying your depression is invalid, your struggle is real. I’m talking more about the abstract idea of meaning than the emotional struggle of having a hard time finding it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

The meaning or lack thereof of life doesn't abrogate your responsibility in life: to change the world for the better. This could be as impactful as being the architect of a world-historic event and it could be as modest as being a good role model for kids who will grow up to not fuck up as much as you. But everyone has this responsibility, and this responsibility is completely orthogonal to whether life has meaning or not.

There's nothing more meaningless to question whether life has meaning or not.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nihilism is just emo absurdism.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Bourgeois absurdism. You can only be a nihilist if you can afford to not care. The rest of us are forced into Sisyphusification by that same meaninglessness.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sisyphusification Hypno vid part 1/∞

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eternal recurrence but it's me putting my makeup on every morning.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

we put on make-up just to remove it again, so it goes

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I drink the water just to pee it all out again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The vicious cycle

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I want you to know this was a really good point ignoring the sissy hypno memes lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Too much thinking in this thread when obviously you should just flow like a river and smoke weed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't give a shit if God is dead, I want to know if God is giving head?

"What if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest jerk off, and say to you, "This goon sesh as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it other than me sucking you off? but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and cumsplosion everything unutterably small or great in your Armenian conveyor belt with your bros will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence" ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: "You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yes, and that's WHY we dance

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the wrong things turn to dust and the wrong things turn into the stones we build our world on

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[+] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

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