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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t claim that it’s universally worthwhile. It just is what it is until it isn’t.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And it isn't what it isn't until it is. Swapping around words and dualities is not wisdom, it's sophistry.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I believe you're missing the forest for the trees. Words are signposts, tools. It doesn't mean literal vacuous truth. The phrase is illustrative, of course.

In this case, "is what it is" means forgoing judgement because it doesn't change what already is the case. This seems fundamental to Buddhist teaching that was mentioned in the root comment. This attachment and resistance is, to some interpretations, the source of suffering. At least that's how it was taught to me during my short time living at my local temple.

"Until it isn't" refers to death.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not missing the forest for the trees, I'm telling you that you are looking at a desert with a scrub brush, insistent it's a forest.

It is vacancy masquerading as truth. I am perfectly aware of Buddhist dualisms and detachment theory. However, per Wittgenstein, there is no real wisdom or metaphysical truth to be gained in phraseology and word games. Particularly if they are readily interchangable with their contradictions. It can be fun, but not nessecerily wise or meaningful.

'Isn't what it isn't" means foregoing judgement because it doesn't change what already isn't the case. This attachment and resistance is, to some interpretation, the source of suffering.

'Until it is' refers to death.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

However, per Wittgenstein, there is no real wisdom or metaphysical truth to be gained in phraseology and word games.

They aren't playing word games, you are merely interpreting that way. They are conveying a message via the words to you, one you reject without reason

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Ah but have you considered that some of us are into that shit