Television

Big take away for me is both stay true to the source material… minor changes but nothing over the top. The attention to detail in fallout is incredible, even down to the controls that open the doors in the vault.

So many shows just go so far away from the source they’re terrible.

I like it more than Last of Us personally.

Lol seriously. The tone was what I thought they absolutely nailed. There's tons of examples but the easiest is how genuinely badass that power armor intro is, and then also "fuck fuck fuck fuck". Fallout was always like that lol.

you say this as if todd doesnt love obsidian and new vegas. why even go there at all if he hates it so much? this idea is so pathetic among the new vegas fanboys just seems like bad actors pushing a narrative against bethesda any means neccesary

Or compared to whatever the fuck the Halo series was

I'd say most of that is the setting, not the plot. The plot was mostly about slowly uncovering that setting, bringing a MacGuffin from A to B, and having random stuff happen along the way. Many of the character interactions felt surface level (heh) as well to me, probably because or why (as I said) I couldn't really get into the characters.

Idk, I don't blame you if you see it differently, but the overall narrative and character building left a bit to be desired for me.

That's not plot, those are premises. Premises are fine at the beginning of a series but they need to do something interesting with those premises.

For example, lawyers starts a new office and falls in love with secretary is just a premise, a starting point. But it turns out that said lawyer has a strong imposter syndrome that makes him doubts everything he does despite his externally cocky attitude, while the secretary is actually a down on her luck law student who got emotionally abused by her previous boyfriend who is now the new hire on a high tier firm that is the main competitor of the protagonist's firm. Main guy shows interest on the secretary but they have a fallout due to her wariness and his insecurity. Then the opposing firm starts a hostile takeover by stealing clients and lawyers. Main guy is on the brink of bankruptcy which throws him into a spiral. So he concocts a crazy plan that involves a dangerous representation of the local mafia, to which one of their big players are the estranged family of the secretary who she tried to abandon to run away from the insecurity and violent life. So now they find out this facts about each other when the mafia accidentally kills one of the lawyers of the opposing firm under weird circumstances and both the lawyer and the secretary end up hashing their deep emotional baggage on a road trip to another district and find their respective strengths, her to confront her criminal father and him to stand up for his employees, then…

You get the idea, that is plot. Things that happen to the characters or that the characters do, that fundamentally changes them and the context. A cool premise can only get you so far. In Fallout things barely happen and the characters end up more or less at the same place they started in, emotionally speaking.

Changing the tone here and there is good, but in Fallout it felt a little jarring to me at times.

Matt Smith's Doctor is the only I actually believed when he would say "Guns are bad, kids!" and then do a genocide anyways.

Normally I just roll my eyes when he kills them with SCIENCE! instead, but that one was just crazy enough that I believed he believed it.

This exactly. Barely anything of consequence happens in any one episode, apart from the first and the last. Everything in between could have been condensed into maybe 2-3 episodes, leaving more time for actual plot after the big battle at the observatory.

"Get that jello mold outta here!"

You're doing the Lord's work. I wish I could get jelly fin working the same way. I haven't been able to figure out how to access it outside my home network