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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (5 children)

totally agree that the logical future is a single powerful system for the house with thin clients and little baby machines for surf/browse/email/stream. most of what anyone is doing could work great on a $20 raspberry pi, but manufacturers have convinced everyone that every house needs like 3+ systems that can all do climate modeling or geospatial analysis.

if like 90% of the heavy traffic internet wasn't riddled with the latest UX complicating popups and malformed ad technology, most of the complaints of "my computer is slow" would probably vanish overnight.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

It's so funny that nearly all processing headroom improvements since like the first Core 2 Duo have been eaten up by ads and shitty code from exploited programmers

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

tell me about it. get linux and a good adblocker and you probably could still use a core 2 duo system for most peoples everyday tasks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I will tell you about it.

I booted up a T60. That's right, from 2006, back when Lenovo had just bought ThinkPad from IBM, so it still has the IBM ThinkPad logo, anyways. It has a Core Duo, no no, not a Core 2 Duo, Core Duo the 32bit one. Put an SSD in it, put Debian with XFCE on it, and it runs very well. Emails, LibreOffice, Music, no problem. Besides both batteries being dead, it's good for a few more years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

really shows us how they could make longer lasting electronics if they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

yeah, but opening up one of the modern shitwebsites in firefox or chrome will absoultely choke that machine to death.

web bloat is the only reason i upgrade hw

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

So far as I remember (it's been some time since I used it) it worked well enough with the websites I did visit (besides watching youtube—through invidous—, for obvious reasons).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

to be fair most of it comes from advertising and tracking, a good adblocker helps quite a lot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Software bloat is real.

A modern web page (with no hi-res images) can take >1GB RAM, when '90s web browsers typically took <1MB. Modern Adobe PDF reader takes >200MB, when some of the longest video games I've loved are <=10MB. Heck even a modern indie-made game with tons of gameplay is still sometimes <200MB.

The cause really is just shitty code and corner-cutting. Optimizing anything is rarely regarded as worth it nowadays, even if a small amount of work leads to 10x performance gains.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately even the default Lemmy UI is pretty heavy. A clean load of this page and the comments transferred 1.92MB on the wire (6.61 decompressed). I blame Inferno. Not because Inferno is specifically bad, but because I have been convinced that anything that is React or React-like is bad.

On Diethex it's 204kB and 217kB respectively, and that's because the OP's image is 108kB.

A comparable Reddit page https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1bja5qu/robert_de_niro_80_and_his_10months_old_daughter/ initially loads about as much as Hexbear, even including all the ad scripts, but transfers megabytes more as you load and scroll comments.

Where they super begin to differ is that one Reddit tab is currently sitting at 400MB+ RAM usage, compared to Hexbear's 140, compared to Diethex's 20**.

** I think one thing that is hard to track about page memory usage is the web browser will over-allocate to speed up page navigation and then eventually reclaim when you have mostly settled where you are. So after a few minutes it's now:
DietHex: 20MB
Hexbear: 60MB
Reddit: 160-260MB

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I like how Firefox prevails in every timeline

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are only two constants in every instance of the multiverse: Firefox, and pig poop balls

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I would like to imagine there's a version of Loss in the alt timeline. Exact same art style and tone, dunked on equally as much to the point of immortal meme

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I want a living room sized computer in my house just to be able to log onto the hexbear bbs and post

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ideally if I could turn it on by pulling a 3 foot lever and spinning a brass wheel

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Sounds like my current modded Minecraft Survival world

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can I also play UNO?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

it comes installed on all room-sized computers

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

this is next year if we vote PSL

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

hehe

I named the imaginary computer after the Electronika 60, which is the original computer Tetris was programmed for and was rack mounted.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My garage gets to like -10 degrees in the winter. Is the politburo going to defrost my pc you fucking revisionist?

PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Run it harder.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

The colder it gets the more flops you can flip.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm already as hard as I can be!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

rat-salute

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

You can put the rack wherever you want, the only thing that you can't do is move the components into a different style of case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

your capitalist garage.

your communist garage would be well insulated.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

In communist america, whole neighborhood shares 1 garage, and every day, line forms at checkpoint

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Man I'd love if I could have a rack mounted computer that didn't have hurricane simulators as cooling fans.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

United Soviet States of America

Computing Centre

disgost ukkk

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It comes with accepting the metric system

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

wait America adopted the metric system, this is the most unrealistic part of the whole senario

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Sounds like paradise to me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is literally my dream, except it would be Plan 9 instead of Linux also there would be no web browsers and no BBcode forums it would be something else running over 9P on the collective grid