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submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Should I Be Normal™ in the chance it would let me nullify an unjust conviction, or simply deliver a communist diatribe during the selection process

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Word of warning. NEVER utter the words “jury nullification” during jury selection or while in a jury. If you must you can say things like, “Even if they did abc I don’t think they deserve xyz, because they 123.” Even if you do this though things can end very badly for you so please do further reading away from the geometric bear website.

Anyway, it on your priorities. If it’s more beneficial to act normal and try to get selected in order to influence the jury, then sure. If not, then try to poison the jury selection process. Again, DO NOT mention jury nullification.

Are you financially secure enough to take the time to be on a jury?

Are you actively contributing to other important efforts (organizing, childcare, education, volunteering) that could negatively be impacted my you absence while on a jury?

Are you confident enough that you can maintain your beliefs throughout the jury process?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Mmm interesting

Step 3: DO NOT Mention Nullification in the Jury Room

Just don’t do it. If the judge believes that a juror is thinking about nullification, they will likely remove that juror. But if the juror simply has doubts on the facts of the case, the juror cannot be removed. The inability to discuss jury nullification openly encourages hung juries. So if you must, hang. Even if the other jurors pressure you, stay true to your principles. Vote your conscience. A “not guilty” verdict might save someone’s life. Despite Laura Kriho’s ordeal, the likelihood of going to jail for using jury nullification is remote. Regardless, these basic precautions can help you flex your constitutional rights without risking jail time. The greater risk is getting struck from the jury before you get a chance to use your jury nullification right.

Serving would be fine as long as the trial isn't longer than a week.

"Oh no, the chuds talked me out of the immortal science" hahahaha

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Serving would be fine as long as the trial isn't longer than a week.

Aren't most trials much longer than a week?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

But then how does anyone ever serve on a jury

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Why do you hate America?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

or simply deliver a communist diatribe during the selection process

Selection is like an hour, the jury's deliberation takes days, besides the lifelong impact to the defendant. If you speak your mind during selection, everyone involved will forget you quickly

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the jury's deliberation takes days

That depends on the case. Some cases will be over before lunchtime today. Now if you try to nullify chances are they will force you to deliberate until lunch tomorrow.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It would take longer than that to get the whole jury on board to nullify or agree not guilty, and if you can't, a hung jury wouldn't be declared until days later

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The trial I was on I hung the jury and the total time from the start of the trial to declaring the jury hung was a day and a half.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Selection is like an hour, the jury's deliberation takes days

I served on a Jury. the selection process took a week and deliberation was less than 2 days. every trial is different

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I remember reading a guide from some anarchist subreddit I think about how behave during voir dire to actually get selected but now I can't find it

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Last time I went there was an ex police chief among the potential jurors. Under questioning he admitted to a bias in favor of police, saying that police "don't lie" (lol). When they called me a said I grew up not trusting police because they lie all the time. I was dismissed by the prosecuting attorney.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nullifying if fun and I would do it again. Highly recommended. and on the other side of the coin you get to put chuds in their place. (you also get to put chud jurors in their place by nullifying)

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Depending on what you want to do just say you love or hate law enforcement

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I am 100% on team "pretend to be a chud and then nullify the charge no matter what it is."

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Bit of a tangent, although it’s possible it applies here: if you work for the government, especially a municipal government, it’s likely you won’t be selected for a jury. The government is often a party to lawsuits, and because of that they consider government employees to be non-neutral in those situations.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you have the financial stability to serve on the jury then go with "be normal" and stealth your way into it (and stay that way while on the jury). You can then do what you know is right via the jury. If you get on the jury, even if you don't convince everyone else over to your side (a verdict or nullification) you can create a hung jury and delay an unjust process.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Can they actually prove you got a summons in the mail? After they wasted a day of my time sitting at a court house I juat ignored any other jury summons I got and nothing ever came of it.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's usually sent certified mail or some similar thing. If you don't respond they will resend and eventually 'hand deliver'. OP probably won't be picked for some kinda arbitrary unstated reason. Or maybe it will be like:

Q:"Would you trust a cop's testimony more or less than an ordinary citizen's?"

A: "Uhhhh..."

Q: "Dismissed."

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

They dont dismiss you right away they wait until you've sat around for 6 more hours.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Why just skip it when I could either help someone or do a diatribe

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't risk the warrant tbh. Depending on how busy the district is, there might not even be a trial scheduled during the term. I've been summoned a lot for some reason, and most of the time haven't had to do anything other than acknowledge the initial summons.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

weird so did my brother but I'm p surre you're not him

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