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It's not illegal, but it's still weird, creepy and potentially harmful and no amount of lambasting about "the problematic age gap discourse" will make it not true.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Everyone under the age of 25 should be strapped to a booster seat and given a binky and a rattle

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Struggle session not related to the revolution, struggle session for its own sake, is useless.

:kim:

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Leftists: "What two consenting adults do in the bedroom is not anyone else's business."

Also leftists: This

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

someday we will study what drives people to constantly start conversations with random strangers about who should and should not be having sex, imagining all the details that make them angry and constantly proposing new rules about it

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Harry De Bois vibes

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Insufficient concentrations of Orgone Energy is my bet.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Power dynamics.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

There isn't a defined line for when an age gap is bad because it's only one factor and while there is obviously a power dynamic between differently aged people that doesn't necessarily make the relationship harmful. As others have pointed out, there are power dynamics in every relationship. What's important is whether it's being utilized or not.

I think it's ultimately problem of alienation under capitalism. Ideally, under communism, you could rely more on the community to prevent predatory or abusive relationships without having super strict rules. I think 19-26 is in a grey area, it could easily be predatory but it's possible for it not to be. I'd rather err on the side of bodily autonomy.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

while there is obviously a power dynamic between differently aged people

IDK, I feel like that's an incomplete proposition, to some extent at least.

The things that typically make for an "power-dynamic" in a relationship, like accumulated personal wealth, social experience, social networks & ones overall position in society are all to some extent or another correlated with age to some extent. But y'know, none of those are necessarily guarantees; at least not within the specific age-range specified in the post at any rate.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Every time I see something like this get posted the age gap gets narrower and narrower, and I'm excited to see where it ends up

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

:volcel-vanguard: ! ! ATTENTION CITIZEN !! :volcel-vanguard:

the Volcel Vanguard has found you guilty of "making whoopie" with an individual 6 months your junior. Please report to the nearest :gulag: for immediate summary execution. Thank you! :volcel-judge:

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

counterpoint: that's two consenting adults and none of my business :big-cool:

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Under communism the age of consent will be 45:garf-troll:

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

well no because 19 year olds can go out with 18 year olds and that's fine

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I find it preposterous that you're talking about "power dynamics" when the 25 year old in this situation, at the time, was a poor intern at The Young Turks (making $25,000 / year in Los Angeles) who has lifelong body dysmorphia from being overweight as a teenager. While on the other hand, the 19 year old in this situation was literally

spoilerMichael Jackson's daughter.

I mean, if anything, the 19 year old had more power in that relationship. She literally had 1,000,000 x more money than he did, at the time. He was literally a broke-ass boy toy to her. Do you not get that? Does six years of age make up for millions of dollars? And a nineteen year old who grew up in that environment is going to be very, very mature for their age.

tl;dr: LET STRAIGHT WOMEN HAVE BOY TOYS.

She consents. He consents. They were both adults. They were both mature. They are literally still friends with each other, on good terms. Please don't fall into the negative side of being parasocial. This is not even something worth talking about.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

OP, what's it like being clinically allergic to context? Every other question you pose basically boils down to historically particular context, this one especially.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've been wondering if OP is a bit account ever since their 2nd or 3rd big thread, whatever it was that followed the self-crit redemption arc thread

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

love a thread that reminds me hexbear came out of reddit

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Hot take: men should not fuck women.

It’s not illegal, but it’s still weird, creepy and potentially harmful and no amount of lambasting about “it being enough internet for today” will make it not true.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I am 23. Whenever I accidentally come across nude pictures of an 18 year old (sometimes unavoidable on the internet, even when not searching for it) my immediate reaction is "ew, that is a child, I don't want to see that"

I cannot imagine what kind of disgusting freak you have to be to pursue these children into your 30s and 40s. :gulag:

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I agree with your premise and wouldn't personally do it. However, I don't think these situations are quite as taboo or quasi-pedophlic as you categorize them to be. It is acceptable depending on the context of that relationship, or as you place it: power dynamics.

Power dynamics is dependent on: If they are both two consenting adults who are financially and emotionally independent & stable of each other. If those conditions check out, then there really isn't much of a problem, and it doesn't qualify as quasi-pedophlic sexual predatory as you seem to be painting these relationships or sexual encounters to be.

I mean, I've met couples - with children - who are 19/28 & 23/31 and started out which way. These relationships do happen.

I concede it is weird, at first glance, or when it's like a 30+ year old who exclusively dates teenagers/undergraduates. Yet people involved in those age ranges are still adults with their full agency behind their actions when they consent to sexual intercourse or romantic engagements; if both partners are financially, socially, and emotionally stable and independent of one another, then categorizing this as creepy, weird, or quasi-pedophilic , feels dehumanizing and infantilizing to reduce teenaged adults into helpless victims of those elder partners.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

My roommates met at around those ages (apparently they met in college and didn't realize the age gap until it was too late) and honestly I thought it was messed up for awhile but now they're 23 and 30, making a life for themselves, supporting the other at their lowest and loving each other

I'd still agree with you generally, I have no plans to recreate their relationship, but it is possible for it to work out

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Eh, I've been in a relationship with a wide age gap. The older person was a lot older, the younger person had more relationship/sexual experience, earned more money at a more stable job, had their own place, was in several other fairly stable intimate relationships, had a car etc. and in cases like that I don't see any harm being done because of age difference. Age is just an indicator of independence and social power, but it's pretty bad one.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

if you would consider someone that age a child that means you should not be dating in that age group

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