I wasn't going to relitigate this, because I'm tired boss, but I still have to say, even translated to another language, I still don't agree with renaming it to gossip or any equivalent. In addition, this:

While there are some legitimate arguments being made relating to misogynistic societal perceptions of that word, the mods include women and enbies who disagree and specifically requested this name. I feel that this situation parallels the initial pushback that was experienced with disabled in which users voiced concerns that this name could be ableist, but the moderators of that community are themselves disabled and specifically requested that comm name, verbatim.

is exactly why this should have been put to a vote. Why do their voices and preferences matter more than mine? Especially considering at least one of the mods has already admitted they don't even like the thing they're in charge of? Not to mention that, whether intentionally or not, all users are relegated again to some mass of people, while the mods get the nuance of being part of these minority groups - why isn't it noted that the 'legitimate arguments' were also coming from women and enby users? And this parallel you're trying to draw comes off as essentially 'anybody arguing against this is clearly not informed or from the minority group affected', again whether you intend it to or not. Not to mention, if you accept them as legitimate arguments, why are they being cast aside for the personal preference of a handful of mods?

I really think yall have a lot of learning to do.

Editting to add: the more I think on this, the more this whole thing is baffling. We're seriously going to replace 'dunk tank' because of it's racial connotations, and we're going to rename it some variation of 'gossip' in spite of it's sexist connotations. What are we doing here?

i wasn't sure if I wanted to join the struggle session, but I feel like I have to get my words out.

we have taken demographic polls of this site. we have pronouns, we have an em_poc comm and we have had struggle sessions about both of these in the past.

the gall to decide that our queer users are giving off 'cishet vibes'. the gall to decide that our POC users are giving off 'white vibes'.

this is genuinely disgusting behaviour, and I cannot believe the admin team let this fly, let alone decided it was worth adding to the argument. I am aware of what other info has come out - this point still stands regardless. why has the admin team signed off on this argument? why wasn't this shot down immediately? why was it ever entertained as a valid argument in the first instance?

'Anger integer overflow' has the same vibes as 'Tommy needy drinky'

the Overton window should remain in the middle

the middle of what mate

dude really thinks there's like an actual dial and one side says 'Left' and the other says 'Right' and it's imperative that the arrow on the dial points directly up at all times

nominative determinism

they'll never be able to match any of the emojis we have, not even close

our emojis even have lore

you see, when ukraine is full of nazis its OK because sometimes there are good nazis, but when you're pro-palestine you are a nazi which is always bad, because there's no such thing as a good nazi

I am very smart because I can hold these contradictions both in my brain and not have it melt into a puddle

it's almost as if it's already there, no?

i tied the future of my kids to these houses, have you thought about that huh? every house you take from me you're taking from the tiny toddler hands that i personally put them in, stop being so mean :(

being so treat brained I can only think of other people in terms of treats and treat-standins

was literally coming here to post this, beat me to the punch

square peg through a circle hole ass logic

they're like me but they don't buy into the same lib shit I do, therefore they must be faking it enmasse! world view secure

finally, the one true leftist