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Denver police have arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of fatally shooting a man whose leg was blocking the aisle on a public bus.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

absolutely insane age to have access to a gun unsupervised lmfao

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I hunted, shot targets, and protected the farm from predators and varmints safely for years because I was taught religiously and throughly since I was a small child what the responsibilty of wielding a firearm is. Firearms are tools designed to end lives, and they are very, very good at it. There are no take-backs, no do-overs. Each time you touch a firearm, a life could end, and you NEED to be absolutely 100% certain it's the life you mean to take.

It's a great crushing weight that many adults, much less 13 year olds, should not be trusted with, but some 13 year olds can bear that responsibility well, as I did. There were never any accidents, because there could not be accidents.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One thing that I constantly have to remind myself is that people I'm debating with live a vastly different life experience. So many people who are so antigun clearly live in an urban or suburban environment and cannot fathom living somewhere rural enough that defending livestock from predators or hunting for food is a fact of life.

And some that are so pro-gun live in rural areas and don't get the issues that dense populations where guns are cause issues.

Personally, I don't think guns are the main problem. It's the culture around guns, the worship of guns, the lack of better conflict resolution skills, the rise of extremist echo chambers, and harmful rhetoric online.

Even the "come and try to take them" and "fuck around and find out" attitude implicitly says that guns are going to solve whatever conflict people have and that it's a valid solution equal with other options. The rhetoric doesn't tell people that it's the option of last resort for conflicts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Hear you however not, most, aren't like that rural or not. There are stories of kids harming and getting harmed by guns.

Best friend grew up in Arizona and got accidentally shot by his friend as kids roughly the same age. Ended up with a bad leg his whole life from it.

Children should not have guns period. Just my opinion