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Google admits Spotify pays no Play Store fees because of a secret deal | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)
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[–] 203 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m not a big fan of the high fees, but I’m even less of a fan of big developers being treated differently than the little guy.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Some banks do this *** too. The more money you deposit, the less fees you pay. Because 'premium customer' and all this.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yep Chase for instance: over 75k on deposit, no ATM withdrawal fees anywhere! You know, helping the people who need it the least.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Sorry for the ignorance, but you have to pay to withdraw money from your bank in the US?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    From your bank in person, no. From your bank's own ATM, no. From an ATM run by another bank out of network, yes, there are often fees and your bank will waive them under certain circumstances.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If it’s run by another bank out of network, your bank cannot waive them. The fees are set by the owner of the ATM and that fee goes to them.

    Your bank can just cover/refund the fees for you.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Not if you withdraw from a store. I forgot the exact term. Just grab a drink or snack and select the withdraw amount on the card reader.

    Yes. Technically paid extra but at least I get something back. Not ideal but better than using an ATM and risk a out of network fee.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not necessarily. Usually your bank will have ATMs you can use fee-free. And often partner bank ATMs as well.

    Out of network ATMs can charge fees, which you will prompted to accept before withdrawing, but that's not from your bank. That's the company running the ATM. Generally $3-5

    I guess some shitty banks could charge fees on top of that....

    Mine charges no fees and actually reimburses ATM fees (a certain amount per month)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Chase absolutely charges you for using a non-network ATM. I have a friend that has Chase for their bank and will not withdraw from a non-chase ATM even if the ATM has no fees because Chase will just charge him after the fact.

    Makes me wonder why he still bothers keeping Chase.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And charge you a monthly service fee unless you have a job (regular transaction into the account per billing cycle), which isn't a thing in other places.

    Ripping off poor and jobless people. Yes.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean I can’t believe I’m about to defend a bank, but it makes sense no?

    Banks want people to deposit money, rich people have more money. So it tracks that you would offer better incentives to get those people to be your customers.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nobody is saying it doesn’t make financial sense, but that it’s a dick move.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Saying corporations are making dick moves under capitalism is like saying when rains things get wet.

    Like do we expect anything different at this point.

    The world is run by greedy self serving asshole, more news right after these dystopian ads.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sooo, we’ll call me an optimist, I believe people can be, and for the most part ARE better than that.

    My concern is that the psychopaths always win. At the top of the companies and countries, we mostly have psychopath leaders. These are people that treat society as a game to be won. To the best of my ability and reasoning, I can’t find a way to avoid that. Socialism, communism, capitalism, etc….

    There’s no system they won’t exploit because they all have exploitable holes. Normal people won’t sacrifice what’s needed to be a CEO, because it’s not worth it to them. They value their own life and family more than the power and money. They want enough control to feel like they can run their own life and enough money to eat and sleep. That’s a reasonable life.

    But in order to get ahead, you have to want that money and control almost as much as breathing. The system BREEDS psychopaths. They ALL do, because as time goes on, the requirements to get elected or promoted get harder and slimmer and require greater sacrifice. So only the people who care about NOTHING but getting that power will make it through eventually.

    ….. and I can’t solve that riddle.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Some banks? No. All banks.

    Even credit unions do this. They may not have as many or as expensive fees as regular commercial banks but they still have fees and certain features aren't free. If you deposit $100,000 (or more) you'll find that a lot of those fees get waived, your interest rates will be better, and they will generally treat you better than the peasants with like $5,000 in their savings.

    It's just another advantage that the rich have over every day people. Most of them take these things for granted or don't think they matter in the slightest. It never occurs to them that regular $3 fees or occasional $25 fees can have a huge impact on the poor and the middle class.

    Full Disclosure: I work for a bank.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Agreed, but at least that is an upfront rule that technically applies to anyone with X amount of money. This is some back room handshake shit.

    I’d be better if Apple / Google lowered their fees based upon how many installs anyone hit. At least it would apply to everyone, not just a couple of billionaires scratching each other's backs.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I think this is done to prevent anticompetitive issues. If Google were to profit off of both its own product (youtube / yt music) and also require its competitors to pay it a % of revenue, it would potentially open them up to more anticompetitive lawsuits.

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