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I just had a thought like "What if some UFO aduction experiences people claim to have are actually people being kidnapped by the CIA" thinking-about-it

The kind of stories I'm thinking about often go like: "I was driving on an empty road in the middle of nowhere. I saw a bright light," and then either "I remember nothing but had lost time" or "I remember being experimented on by aliens and then put back in my car."

My tinfoil hat side is thinking like, these stories started happening around the time the US admitted to experimenting with abuse, torture and psychoactive drugs in Project MK-Ultra. Alien abduction stories were the most prevalent during this time. (CW: Just a heads up. If you want to read the rest of this post or anything else about MK-Ultra, be warned that it's pretty horrible, and involves some of the most disgusting torture I have ever read about. Death to America.)

Of the surviving documents released to the public about MK-Ultra, the CIA admits to: "kidnapping people it deemed "expendable" to undertake various types of torture and human experimentation on them. The prisoners were interrogated while being administered psychoactive drugs, electroshocked and subjected to extremes of temperature, sensory isolation and the like to develop a better understanding of how to destroy and to control human minds."

Part of me wonders how many of these alien abduction stories are just people being kidnapped, drugged with powerful hallucinogens, experimented on and then released with the suggestion conditioned into their mind that it was aliens.

The most famous alien abduction story is that of Barney and Betty Hill, an interracial couple that were both civil rights leaders, definitely people that the CIA would want to fuck with, especially during rising tensions with the Soviet Union, the US government was suspicious of minorities and anyone interested in their rights.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think there's probably a lot more human experimentation going on than any of us would like to think.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I've always similarly assumed the number of human clones running around is higher than is known or acknowledged.

Not like, body double shit or anything like that. Just people out in the world who happen to be cloned from someone else. If they could do it with a sheep decades ago, there's no way some obscure billionaire freak hasn't at least tried to bankroll the creation of unregistered human beings for dubious purposes.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago

Wait until you hear about twins

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

Cloning has a very high failure rate particularly among large animals. That and humanities long gestation period and slow growth rate make it unlikely. But maybe, I wouldn't put it past them

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Babies are technically clones

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

A clone would still need to be in someone's womb to gestate, so why would it be any less registered than a regular baby? Just fuck people and enslave your own babies at that point, it's an American tradition. If anything clones would just draw more suspicion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm sure Musk or some other billionaire tried to recreate the the 6th day, and got the perfect cloning part done, but gave up and had their clones killed after they couldn't get the memory uploads working.