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what i don't get about all the discourse around here lately when it comes to this movie is attacking the wrong 'bad part' of the movie (as someone who has been a fan of it)
no one I know was influenced by scott, if anything he's the opposite of an aspirational figure - there is little, if any, cultural impact stemming from his character.
who we SHOULD be talking about is Ramona, and the way in which the Manic Pixie Dream Girl girlfriend became such an integral part of the 2010s culture, it's impact on dudes who saw themselves as sitting outside the mainstream who now thought that an MPDG would fix them, and how this in turn affected women (feeding into internalised 'not like other girls' misogyny that was coming from spaces like early Tumblr)
As much of Scott's character arc the movie had to skip over, they pretty much gutted Ramona's entire arc in service of keeping the runtime manageable. A large part of the point of the comics is that they're both terrible people with a trail of ruined lives behind them and they both have to become better for themselves, each other, and everyone else.
Big oof. I was the manic pixie dream ~~girl~~boyfriend for a bunch of people in the '10s. It was really easy for people to play with you for a while then throw the toy away when they found out that "manic" also comes with severe depression and sometimes real, actual, scary mania. : p
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt at the least presented the downside and plausible consequences of "manic pixie" energy.
so true. I feel like 500 Days of Summer contributed to this a lot too. Really anything with Zooey Deschanel lol
She was the dream girl of the day.
This is an unexpected but very good take.