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Hundreds of unsheltered people living in tent encampments in the blocks surrounding the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco have been forced to leave by city outreach workers and police as part of an attempted “clean up the house” ahead of this week’s Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation’s annual free trade conference.

The action, which housing advocates allege violated a court injunction, was celebrated by right-wing figures and the tech crowd, who have long been convinced that the city is in terminal decline because of an increase in encampments in the downtown area.

The X account End Wokness wrote that the displacement was proof the “government can easily fix our cities overnight. It just doesn’t want to” (the post received 77,000 likes). “Queer Eye but it’s just Xi visiting troubled US cities then they get a makeover,” joked Packy McCormick, the founder of Not Boring Capital and advisor to Andreessen Horowitz’s crypto VC team. The New York Post celebrated the action, saying that residents had “miraculously disappeared.”

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I just do not understand why we are not addressing homelessness in more productive ways. We know it can be better managed as some countries have figured it out. Really crazy that we are not all on board with just doing the right thing and having a win win for all. We choose to suffer and we choose to sweep our suffering under the rug when guests come over.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Because that would involve "giving someone something for free that they DiDn'T WoRk FoR!" You can't give anything to anyone except billionaires because it's "not fair to meeeee. I work, I don't get free stuff. They should just Get A Job!™©®"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Just World is heavily baked into the American ethos, I think. That, along with a healthy dose of contagious protestant every-moment-must-be-productive.

Homelessness is the-on earth hell they need and invoke.

I just wish Jesus had an opinion on the poor that he'd shared with his followers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because solving homelessness is counter-productive to running a capitalist society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

That is one of the common excuses but countless studies show it is cheaper to just deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the best solution I've seen is lots of small, private housing. Basically, give people a bed and a locking door, and they have a way better chance of turning their life around. Let people stay as long as they're not violating the rules, and don't violate their privacy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

… that and providing mental health care.

We have a large homeless community in our downtown area and it is rampant with people that have mental health issues and no support system from family or friends. Nowhere to go but out on the streets if you can’t manage your finances when you live in a capitalist society.

But all of that costs money, and… ya know… capitalism means that money is the most important resource…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

There are no easy solutions to mental health issues, but helping the quiet majority who just need a locking door and a bed in order to reset their life is inexpensive, relatively easy, and effective. It can even potentially prevent many mental health issues from developing or worsening in the first place, especially if counseling services are provided to residents of these communities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is a large part of it. Not all homeless have mental health issues, but the most conspicuous ones often do.

And months of homelessness likely means some support is warranted, in a compassionate society. Better to prevent homelessness, but that doesn't change on a dime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

A private room is far better than shoving everyone in multiple rooms. It needs to be a stream that directs people to the correct support system.

Just lost job - Okay, you go into the program that has employment support. Dealing with mental health issues - Into the program with mental health support. Addiction issues - Into the program with addiction supports. etc.

Have multiple issues, then we get the support needed for those issues.

For this kind of system, it needs to be well funded. Maybe take some away form the bloated police budget.