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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Why is it that, in the West, WW2 is remembered almost solely for the genocide of Jewish people?

Why does the Nazi genocide of Roma, the Nazi genocide of Russians and Poles, and the Japanese genocide of Chinese not get the same attention?

Edit: as pointed out by others, the Nazis also targeted communists, anarchists, LGBT people, and disabled people.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

“The Holocaust” is an ideological representation of the Nazi holocaust. Like most ideologies, it bears a connection, if tenuous, with reality. The Holocaust is not an arbitrary but rather an internally coherent construct. Its central dogmas sustain significant political and class interests. Indeed, The Holocaust has proven to be an indispensable ideological weapon. Through its deployment, one of the world’s most formidable military powers, with a horrendous human rights record, has cast itself as a “victim” state, and the most successful ethnic group in the United States has likewise acquired victim status. Considerable dividends accrue from this specious victimhood – in particular, immunity to criticism, however justified. Those enjoying this immunity, I might add, have not escaped the moral corruptions that typically attend it. From this perspective, Elie Wiesel’s performance as official interpreter of The Holocaust is not happenstance. Plainly he did not come to this position on account of his humanitarian commitments or literary talents. Rather, Wiesel plays this leading role because he unerringly articulates the dogmas of, and accordingly sustains the interests underpinning, The Holocaust

read Finkelstein's The Holocaust Industry. in it he argues that, in the years and decades after the Holocaust, the Holocaust didn't figure much into the lives of Jews. there was no 'Holocaust Studies' majors, there was barely any scholarship on the Holocaust. it was only after upholding the state of Israel became necessary for US geopolitical interests that an entire Holocaust Industry sprung up and the reason it gets so much attention.

bonus Foner:

ERIC FONER: Yeah. We have a big Holocaust Museum, which is a wonderful museum. But what would we think if the Germans built a big Museum of American Slavery in Berlin and had nothing about the Holocaust? We would think they were trying to avoid something. There is no monument in this country to the victims of slavery... We don’t have something like that. So, you know, our public history needs to be updated.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To “whitewash” fascism, which at its core is an anti-communist project, whose mantle had since been taken on by the US empire after WWII and into the Cold War.

Anti-semitism had been rife across Europe for centuries, pogroms and all that, but what elevated it to industrial scale genocide was Cultural Bolshevism, a Nazi propaganda insinuating that Jews were the root cause behind the ideas of Bolshevism. Accordingly, Jews were an integral part of socialism, and so naturally, the only solution to extinguish the idea of Communism (Bolshevism) would be to exterminate all Jews.

There is a reason why Martin Niemoller’s famous poem started with “first they came for the Communists”, then the Socialists, then the trade unionists, and then the Jews.

By “whitewashing” the anti-communist goal of fascism into “simply” ethnic genocide, the US empire would carry on with the goals of fascism after the defeat of Nazism in 1945.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's definitely kinda infuriating to me personally, as the grandchild of two Polish partisans who both lost a bunch of family and ended up in the camps

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

I pointed that out once on reddit-logo and I swear, it seemed like many people were hearing about it for the first time. Props to them for at least not sticking their fingers in their ears.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Literally too complicated for bug-brains to remember.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

In the West, Jewish people are the most white amongst all of those

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Communist and anarchist were targeted too

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Anti Romanian racism and red scare to dehumanize everyone living under communism

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

The East European victims of the Holocaust became the enemy under the banner of Communism, and the contradiction between the "resistance" to Communism also participating in the Holocaust had to be resolved in various ways such as double genocide and minimizing the victims. Same with China to an extent, as Japan became a US occupied outpost in Asia.

Zionism was also an ongoing political movement and project since at least half a century back by that point, and one which was deliberately designed so that it had political and strategy utility for western imperialism, giving a country to the Roma would not give such utility to those nations and in some way you also have to then resolve the fact that one genocided diaspora was given a country and another genocided diaspora was given absolutely nothing.