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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The people who called us conspiracy theorists and Putin lovers for saying all along that it wasn't Russia will never apologize or acknowledge their mistake, and they'll swallow the next obvious lie without a moment's hesitation.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Kind of weird question maybe, I'm up unreasonably late, but is there a term for the thought process that leads someone to a probably true conclusion (such as the US, Norway, and Ukraine collaborated on the nordstream demolition) due to inference/pattern recognition/intuition, without undeniable evidence?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really though it's frustrating that I can't show the receipts on something so blatantly obvious, I feel like if I encountered someone who really wanted to believe Putler did it, I'd have to resort to fuckin, slapping it into them lol

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most turbo Libs aren't well meaning people who got duped by some super convincing propaganda. They're smug, willfully ignorant assholes who subconsciously know half of what they say is total bullshit but they really WANT it to be true. You're not ever going to convince them cuz they're not obliged to abide by the truth.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

In that case I want to punk them in the eyes of any observers, so the same questions apply imo

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No screm-a aaaa no I didn't need to see that right before bed :|

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

True it's a form of conjecture but I like the term @Philosoraptor gave, since "abduction" differentiates between conjectures in terms of simplicity and likeliness, so for example "Russia blew up nordstream" and "NATO blew up nordstream" are both conjecture but the latter is a simpler and likelier explanation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too most people you sound crazy just explaining how the system works.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You might call it a kind of abduction (as opposed to induction or deduction), which is inference to the best explanation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's a good one, I'm not sure I've heard of that one before but it's probably the best fit!