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Not mentioned in the title: he was snorting confiscated fent.

Also this is a cop from the town all the Proud Boys who came to Portland in 2020 live in.

Anyway, happy Friday! officer-down

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

before another Battle Ground officer discovered the sergeant standing and bent over his desk. The officer said Kelly’s breathing was labored.

I don't believe it. Fatal overdoses take time, the timeline doesn't add up if they found him still conscious, standing, and breathing. Story only doesn't set off alarm bells if you believe the propaganda that fentanyl is like cyanide poison rather than just a really strong opiate. This shit looks more like police murdering another cop and blaming an accidental overdose.

Something is seriously wrong with this story. They found him alive, still standing and breathing, but no one administered the Narcan nasal spray literally every police station in the US currently has on hand? I'm sorry but even if they didn't have Narcan on hand at the police station, the paramedics that responded would have administered it. Battle Ground Washington isn't some backwater population 50 people rural town that doesn't have all the normal resources but is a small city in a state with record opiate overdoses. At this point paramedics in states like Washington and Oregon administer Narcan even when they aren't 100% sure it's an opioid overdose because it's better safe than sorry.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It really depends on when they came across him. Fent is just a really strong opiate, but it's also the only (common) opiate that can handily out power narcan. I had someone around to start narcanning me immediately once thing started going wrong, it still took all 3 of our narcans and actual chest compressions to get me up. Narcan is a miracle drug that will save people from overdoses, but hitting a fat ass fent patch can definitely be too much for Narcan to handle. Plus, not really breathing for like 10 minutes is plenty to kill someone.

With that being said, yeah, this story sounds fishy af.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I'm glad you survived.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t know much but my impression is that snorting a line of fentenal like it was a line of coke is like a MASSIVE dose of that stuff, is that right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ld50 of cocaine is apparently ~96mg/kg, while fentanyl is ~18mg/kg, assuming an oral route for both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Id assume. I couldnt find ld50 info for other routes aside from injection, so it could be different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it is. The person responding is talking about doses on paper that don't really correlate to anything IRL. By their logic, it would take a half ounce of cocaine at once to kill somebody. I assure you, it takes far less than a half ounce to kill somebody, otherwise nobody would be able to afford to overdose.

The thing that made me need 3 narcans and cpr was 1/4 of an oxy 30mg press. Meaning that if it were the opiate it was advertised as (far weaker than fent) I would have only been taking 7.5mg. I assure you, there was far less than 7 mils.

Glad I'm off that shit

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

exact same thought, makes no sense if literally anyone there had any amount of competence. then again, cops are fucking stupid so maybe they just panicked

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

then again, cops are fucking stupid so maybe they just panicked

Still makes zero sense if you know the area. Even if the cops panicked the paramedics on the scene have a shit ton of experience with opiate overdoses because it's Battle Ground Washington. Cops could have been complete idiots who thought it was a heart attack in progress even though they claim there were lines of white powder and a rolled up straw but the paramedics would have instantly known what was happening and what to do.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

if they were trying to silence a guy and also use it for some good ol' propaganda it makes a lot more sense, i agree