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Bulletins and News Discussion from October 23rd to October 29th, 2023 - Tunnel Vision (hexbear.net)

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

The key takeway from Mercouris update today(time stamp)

Anyway as I hope is clear I have come to the very very depressed conclusion that one way or the other there is now going to be a military campaign in Gaza there have been warnings against it warnings by many of Israel's Friends by people like [notable writers in the Guardian, Financial times etc] all people who are viscerally hostile to Russia for example and very strongly supportive of Ukraine and strongly sympathetic to Israel as well by the way but none of that seems to be having any effect there's complacency or so it seems to me about Arab and Muslim opinion there's once again a failure to address the enormous shifts in the global balance of power

We're just going to have to wait and see what the results of the military campaign in Gaza are and keep our fingers crossed and hope that there isn't an even bigger disaster involving the global superpowers and an extension of the war...

Put one more into the doomer column lol.

Also regarding Saudi Arabia shift in policy and US/USSR relations in the past which was interesting to me.

spoiler

The United States the United States was the world's Mightiest superpower the other superpower in the past the Soviet Union was ideologically fundamentally hos hostile to what all the things that Saudi Arabia represented. The Saudis were very very opposed to the left-wing socialist movements that were current in the Middle East at that time and which the Soviets were backing and for that reason the alliance between Saudi Arabia and the United States rested on extremely firm foundations.

None of that applies anymore the United States is not the only game in town there is little economically or technologically that the United States can offer Saudi Arabia that the Chinese and the Russians can't at the very least match. Saudi Arabia sees no threat to itself from China or Russia which do not have the kind of revolutionary leftist programs that the old Soviet Union once did(PS: China at least isn't going to export socialism, so not accurate but still the same result)

As I discussed in my program yesterday taking it from that article by John Helmer the left the secular socialist left in the Middle East has all but disappeared the only place where you will still find it to any degree is in Syria where president Assad and his party to some extent still embody those ideals so it's a completely different geopolitical environment and the Saudis have choices that they didn't once have.

I can remember how just a few years ago not very long ago at all sub subsequent to our setting up the the Duran was still in existence was already in existence you could find articles in all sorts of publications and places which continue to insist that the Chinese-Russian or rapprochement was not for real, that the Chinese and the Russians were still antagonistic to each other, that they were the best of "frenemies" as a cover on the economist put it, that the that there was no real reality or substance to the Chinese-Russian relationship and today I don't think anybody any longer believes that and I personally would not be surprised if the United States is making the same mistakes about the shifts in Saudi policy that we're seeing at the moment.