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Real pacifist crowds you got there
Don't we support the death penalty? Surely Elon wouldn't just get prison that would suck
There's a fair amount of us that are against punitive/retributive justice as a rule actually. Whenever I post about it I get a fair number of upbears so I assume I'm not alone.
Wait till you find out most of us are prison abolitionists as well lol.
Where are we putting Elon then
He will be a waste reprocessing worker third class in the Provisional Martian Worker's Republic. He will be paid a comfortable living wage and proper benefits. He will sleep in the pod, he will eat the algae, and he will be happy.
I mean prison abolition doesnt mean we dont still have places where we put the most extreme cases of people who cant be rehabilitated and are a danger to society if allowed to exist in it. They just wouldnt function like prisons as we know them.
Then again the USSR did do Gulags so
I'm not going to weep over Elon if he's executed or work camp'd I'm just I'm personally against retributive justice in nearly all cases and would advocate for a justice system that isnt retributive post-revolution.
If it makes you feel any better I'm sure Elon doesnt survive the process of revolution anyway :)
Yeah, the question of what to do with people who truly cannot play nice in society is one I'm still learning about re: restorative justice and prison abolition. There are a small number of people who are just irrepairably anti-social and I'm not sure how you'd deal with them. Sending them to a rural area or colony where their movements can be tightly monitored while allowing them some degree of freedom within an assigned area is the best I can come up with.
In Iain Banks The Culture, iirc, people who commit serious crimes are assigned a drone that follows them around for the rest of their lives. They're allowed to go anywhere, do whatever, but if they try to do something anti-social the drone will incapacitate them. That's as close as they have to a prison system.