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[–] 124 points 2 years ago (26 children)

"Blocking Traffic" pretty much the same as "Rioting".

Lmao.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    This one really gets me. Had an arguement with a irl lib friend during the George Floyd protests. They were like, "they need to be peaceful like MLK, not blocking traffic." MLK blocked traffic!!! What are you talking about!!!

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  • [–] 81 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    they would have hated MLK too if they had been around back then

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Of course, libs hate living revolutionaries, but dead ones don't do inconvenient things like support oppressed people or criticize oppressive power structures. Or as Lenin put it:

    During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    It's worth noting that (as Lenin notes here) it's not just liberals, it's the oppressing classes. See the conservative rehabilitation of MLK as a moderate who actually thinks there's no such thing as systemic racism.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I find it funnier that some people think blocking traffic is more acceptable than burning a flag. Blocking traffic is at least a major inconvenience, burning a flag literally doesn't affect you in any way.

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    [–] 90 points 2 years ago* (19 children)

    >blocking traffic is the #3 worst thing anyone can possibly do

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    🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

    to be fair, almost everything on this list is extraordinarily tame and nonthreatening to power

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    That's why it's on the list at all. Limit the definition of political action to the most inert things and relegate everything else to obscurity. Make change or the actions required for a better world unthinkable.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I'd love to see this stacked up with an identical poll except instead of asking what is acceptable or not, ask what is effective or not. I don't think even libs are dumb enough to think any of the acceptable things are actually effective. It'd be a real telling chart.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    counterpoint: yes they are that dumb. they keep telling us to VOTE despite the fact that the people they want us to vote for can't do anything.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    i want to meet with the 5% that think creating a petition is "unacceptable"

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Maybe they think that doing anything but vote is undemocratic/undermines institutions or something.

    Or maybe they're an ancap and think that the only way is to shoot a mctactical nuke into the privatized former public service.

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    See also:

    36% of Americans support US airstrikes that explicitly kill civilians

    51% of Americans support ICE raids against illegal immigrants

    52% of Americans support US strikes in Mexico to fight the cartel

    53% of Americans support stand your ground laws

    55% of Americans support the death penalty

    58% of Americans support drone strikes in general

    65% of Americans have a favorable view of the CIA

    82% of Americans oppose defunding the police

    94% of Americans support the troops

    Real pacifist crowds you got there

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They forgot to mention the most effective type of protest: yamagami

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago

    "Feel free to protest, just not in a way that makes my life more difficult. Or in my line of sight. Or on TV. In fact, protest somewhere over there where no one can see or hear you. That's always enacted change!"

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don’t see guillotine the rich on this survey.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    occupying public spaces

    human domestication is real its just normal neoliberal privatization

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    burning an American flag

    It's my flag I'll do what I want

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago*

    Yea I’m a free speech absolutist (checking always acceptable to everything)

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This shit is how I know the US is already a fascist state

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    The 3% that say rioting is always acceptable and the 2.5% that creating a petition is always unacceptable. lol

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    If it makes y'all feel any better this was a really poorly administered and unscientific poll.

    Sample size of 1000, based on people who responded to an e-mail, more than half of the respondents were over 45, more people over 65 than under 30. (Also apparently more Trump voters than Biden voters?)

    I do think this is SOMEWHAT representative of the American mind but keep this shit in mind as well.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Judging by the graph maybe 5-10% of the US are OK people.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Thanks YouGov! An ordered list of tactics from least to most effective

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I really want to meet someone who thinks that signing a petition is dangerous extremism (actually maybe I don't)

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    "Burning an amerikan flag" at #4 and "blocking traffic" at #3 really says it all.

    Deeply diseased country.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Most people are into protests

    They say they aren’t until the protest starts

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    I did a survey too. It's just this survey but replace the word "unacceptable" with "most effective"

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