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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 161 points 1 day ago

I can't imagine anything more useless than a nondeterministic Excel function.

[-] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 68 points 1 day ago

WHAT ABOUT RAND()? CHECKMATE AI HATERS!!! (/s)

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 27 points 1 day ago

Randomness can still be deterministic and useful. Monte Carlo simulations and whatnot

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

That's the funny bit - unlike rand() which is purelly random with a uniform distribution - a feature which as you point out is useful - and is reliably so, copilot at best has a wild-ass distribution with an the extremelly high dimensionality of its shape which is not even reliable because every time it's initialization parameters are tweaked or any model weights change, the shape of that distribution changes.

It's like they were trying to come up with the thing that's the closest possible to mathematically useless.

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

But what if that is what casinos use to be random?

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago

I read that some have cameras pointed at a wall of lava lamps, they combine random pixel data, with timestamps to the nanosecond, to generate random data.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 28 points 1 day ago

What, you don't appreciate when your excel function just makes shit up? Weird ..

[-] egrets@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

I realize this is the wrong community to post it in, but I can imagine it being useful for things like summarization and cursory sentiment analysis, and perhaps for chaotic test data generation.

As with all AI, though, it's a wildly risky tool as it requires the user to understand its limitations and fallibility (as well as the million other issues AI brings with it).

[-] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I feel like that boils down to "I want a chart, but in words instead of visualization."

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I suppose the idea would be like AVG, but for free form text comment cells. Can't really chart that.

Of course it would be non deterministic left as a "formula", so it's still a bad idea to encode that way, but guess they could have a "summarize this column" feature and then the user does as they will with the result.

Though having comments in a column in a spreadsheet has always seemed like a weird format choice.

[-] egrets@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Kind of - it's the step that makes the data uniform and (nominally) useful so it can then be aggregated and reported on.

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