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submitted 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) by supersquirrel@lemmy.ca to c/europe@feddit.org

Berlin’s backing for Israel in the current context has irrevocably ruined Germany’s international standing.

At the same time, as a result of Germany’s neoliberal restructuring, processes of de-democratisation have been ongoing for years.

The deliberate erosion of democracy has paved the way not only for the selective application of international law, but also for the restriction of fundamental rights within Germany itself.

The German population is firmly against their country’s participation in the extermination of the Palestinian people. In a recent poll, 73 percent said they had a negative view of Israel, while 80 percent have rejected further weapons exports to Israel. Despite this, German arms export licenses to Israel have surged, enabling the state to continue committing war crimes.

While the German government’s blatant disregard for the will of its own people already points to a process of de-democratisation, this is exacerbated by domestic restrictions on fundamental rights, including freedom of assembly, freedom of opinion and speech, and academic freedom, alongside violations of due process - all in the service of the Zionist slaughterers.

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[-] Ooops@feddit.org 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The state's commitment to the murderous Netanyahu regime outstrips its dedication to preserving democracy at home

That's total bullshit.

Because it implies an actual dedication to preserve democracy. There is none. Like all "conservatives" they understand that they can either do at least some amount of reasonable policies for the people of work to undermine democracy to keep catering to their billionaire buddies. And like all "conservatives" they chose the latter and are (once again) planning for fascism and an authoritarian regime over democracy.

"Conservatives" as well as the alleged "centrists" only have one single playbook: Flood everything in populism and culture war and parrot far-right talking points to push far-right parties. Extort other parties to support them in the name of democracy ("or we have to -with a very sad face of course- cooperate with the far-right for majorities"). Cooperate with the far-right once they burned through every other partner stupid enough to play along. Look surprised when they get inevitably eaten up by the far-right after spending years brain-washing the population into believing that everything not on the very right side of the spectrum is dangerous radical left ideology.

So no. The German government is not at all sacrificing democracy because of their support for Israel. They are actively trying to destroy democracy to stay in power despite their insane governing against the people. Cozying up to other far-right movements like Israel's insane pseudo-fascists and US' MAGA is just a byproduct born of common interest and a united hatred for actual democracy.

[-] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

The situation is a bit different in Germany though, because there isn't just one "conservative" party. It won't help the CDU (Chancellor Merz's party) to cozy up to fascist positions because people then will just vote for the original fascists instead (Afd Party) and they will lose their power. There are some studies proving that this strategy does not give them more votes. So this will fail - unless they are willing to form a coalition with the Afd which will alienate them from the non-fascist portion of their voters (which do exist - they are a large faction among traditional CDU voters)

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The situation is a bit different in Germany though, because there isn’t just one “conservative” party. It won’t help the CDU (Chancellor Merz’s party) to cozy up to fascist positions because people then will just vote for the original fascists instead (Afd Party)

Yes, there is one big "conservative party". And the moment two smaller parties coordinated between themselves first to see who of the bigger parties would give them the better deal (FDP-Greens in 2021 obviously chose SPD over CDU) the CDU understood that they could either show some capacity for compromise and sane politicies or never get to power again. At exactly that moment they decided to abandon democracy for power, started parroting far-right bullshit and spread culture-war bullshit 24/7, thus pushing the AfD's lies into the main stream discussion. Not even surprising given that they are completely corrupt and beholden to the whims of their billionaire donors and lobbyists, and couldn't do policies for the catual people even if they wanted to.

Alas the then 11% fascists are now standing at 27%... With the result that -just as planned- there can be no majority without the CDU anymore. Either other democratic parties bows down to their insanity (getting totally demolished in the process - see their coalition partner SPD at the moment) to keep the fascists away from power in the name of "democracy" or the CDU will cooperate and bring the AfD to power themselves (the narratives of needing to respect the voters will and cooperating with the AfD are spread strategically by back-benchers every other day, by more prominent members every other week, to normalise the idea - the moment Merz is gone they will pretend that he was the only reason to keep a distance from those fascists). And it's working like clockwork.

Sure, you can argue that it will kill the long run but a) I already addressed the fact that they will eventually end up getting eaten and b) the corrupt idiots in power don't care. They will just jump ship in one way (some well-paid board memberships in the companies they actively worked for) or another (joining the AfD, like we already saw with their spiritual predecessors joining the NSDAP back then), because all they care for is staying in power and keeping the corruption/self-enrichment-pipeline going.

The situation is a bit different in Germany though, because there isn’t just one “conservative” party.

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