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Every single one of them that voted for Trump or didn't vote, got what they deserve. They voted for the leopard eating faces, and now the leopard is on them.
The ones that voted against Trump are the only ones I can really feel sorry for.
Fuck Americans that failed to vote against Trump.
Trump is a malignant narcissist, and that was very clear before the election, it was also clear before he was elected the first time.
If you want a malignant narcissist as leader of your country, you are not right in the head.
There's no way they could have known. It's not like he had a history going back into the 70s and 60s of being a... oh, yeah. He did.
You know the joke in Back to the Future where Marty tells Doc the President is Reagan, and he says incredulously, "What? The actor?" Well, imagine going back to any point in the latter 20th century and telling someone that Trump will be President. Anyone would laugh, no matter what party affiliation. Seems we all had standards back then, even if they were still low.
The reason is simply because he's the perfect tool that the Southern Strategy dreamed of. They never had an idea it would work so well.
Spy magazine back in the '80s used to have an annual "10 worst people, places and things" issue. Trump always made the list, although it was more of an NYC-centric thing. Each listee always had a "mitigating factors" item and Trump's was always "at least he's not in politics". :(
My favorite bit from back then was that Trump once offered to pay for the funeral of a child who had been killed by a bear, and then reneged on the offer.
They knew Trump was a scumbag back when they made Back to the Future 2! You think this...
...was a coincidence?!
The DNC pretty much handed him 2016, and Biden handed him 2024.
The two parties are both trash, and the citizens just rolling over and taking it up the ass, doesn't help.
Trump still lost the majority the first time and got under 50% the second time. USA's insane election system caused much of it, as well as a failure of the campaigns to account for how it would play out in the uncertain states.
2024 was much more a media propaganda problem, although I agree they didn't do enough to push back. They could've used the presidency to force the message to be delivered along with evidence of Trump's corruption and they decided to "play nice" against the cheater
Hell, the Simpsons made fun of the idea.
They couldn't have known an obvious malignant narcissist would behave like a malignant narcissist? Is that really your claim?
For that to be true, you'd have to be so stupid you wouldn't be able to find the polling station either.
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It doesn't change anything that he quotes a movie, he picked that quote to make that point. And it is simply wrong.
Well, yes, people can be that stupid. Also, how did you read all of what I posted and not realize it was sarcasm? Or did you see the first few words and rage post?
You’re going to need this.
https://lemmy.world/post/50674148
Yeah, maybe you were right. Good lord.
Yeah, when I saw “I don’t even know what Southern Strategy means” I knew you were in for a ride.
Not for the first replies. But if they double down, then sure, let them have their "victory". The chain of messages tells the real story.
No you have to agree with the psychopath to not be able to see it, and if you agree, you are no better yourself.
Only a psychopath don't recognize a psychopath. And Malignant Narcissist is the worst kind of Psychopath there is.
Also it doesn't look like sarcasm to me, quoting a movie is not sarcasm.
And Reagan is irrelevant to American voters voting for an obvious psychopath. For instance the situation with Russia was completely different. And Reagan actually had coherent policies.
Also Emmett Browns surprise is acting. It is not real.
Not really, he was more amenable than Trump is to having handlers. And the policies he implemented caused lasting damage to the American system and to its people. For example, trickle-down economics was utter incoherent evidence-free bullshit that happened to make the rich richer at the expense of everyone else. Reagan was not too bright and had an utter lack of curiosity, was a racist homophobe, and was quite happy to be a pitchman. He was also a shameless liar, though not to Trump's pathological extent.
Trickle down economics were not incoherent, they were a lie. Reagan did not change policy every other week like Trump does.
I do not agree with Reagans policies, but it was far more than just listening more to his advisors, it was also choosing advisors that were actually capable.
So I maintain that Reagans policies were definitely way way more coherent AND consistent than what we see with Trump. And his strategy to pressure Soviet Union actually worked, Soviet Union collapsed because they couldn't keep up, and their attempt to do it, collapsed their economy.
Reagan also didn't ruin relations with allies, but he did introduce a lot of policies that are bad for the middle and especially lower income brackets.
You should look it up. It will make you realize how deep this goes. Can't help you with the rest, it was pretty clear, unless you also don't understand the movie reference. Which is entirely possible, it's amazing how many memes are shared by people these days who are clueless on the origins. A true loss.
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Yes I know the movie, I just don't see how it's relevant. You quoted that because you mean it.
I doesn't change anything that you are quoting a movie where the statement may have been correct.
In the context you use it here it is simply wrong.
In general it takes a psychopath to not detect an obvious psychopath consistently behaving like a psychopath, that's a fact.
Back to the Future
Southern Strategy
Thanks.
Yes back to the future is actually one of my top 3 favorite movies, the whole thing after the first sentence was just such a load of irrelevant gibberish to me, I ignored it.
I don't see how southern strategy is in any way relevant to detecting Trump is a psychopath or rather malignant narcissist which is psychopath².
I've edited 2 of my posts to better reflect my disagreement with what Rhaedas wrote.
Movie quotes or not, he is simply factually wrong.
I'm sorry that you missed many levels of understanding my original post. I wish you could have just asked for clarification instead of the diatribe of anger. Might have made you appreciate the meaning. You seem to have some issues understanding others in this message thread too. Maybe step back a second and take a breath.
I think you are hallucinating there. He is the one who doesn't understand the meaning of what he wrote.
PS:
Of course I know back to the future and doc and Marty, it's actually 1 of my top 3 favorite movies. But you just twisted it so much using it in this context it didn't make the least bit of sense to me, it was like reading gibberish. So I ignored it, and I don't see how it changes anything about the claim you made in the beginning,
you used that quote because you mean it, and you are dead wrong.
As per my first response.
Yes, a reference to someone being amazed of a person being voted in not qualified as President is totally out of context in this thread.
You would think as long as you've been on Lemmy, and probably on other places before that, you'd pick up on a common sarcasm trope like my first line, especially when it's ended as I did. But I realize Poe's Law has been dead for a good decade now, so the assumption is always that the person is being real. Never mind the many words later that seem to point otherwise. Right, you ignored them, as attacking on an assumption is always a great move. (that's sarcasm, btw)
The point he is making is irrelevant, and has no connection to voting for a malignant narcissist.
Yes Reagan was an actor, but he was not a psychopath. Although he was part in leading USA down that road.
The election of Reagan has zero bearing on the ability for people to detect a psychopath, and the fact that only another psychopath can't.
To claim the American voters didn't know they were voting for leopards eating faces is moronic. They voted for him BECAUSE of it, not out of ignorance.
Did you just stop reading that comment after the first sentence?
Don't really feel sorry for anyone willing to fight in wars...
Just be glad you haven't been forced to make that choice.
Ukraine is fighting for their right to live as Ukrainians. They have to defend themselves to avoid genocide.
I can not respect you if you don't support the right for Ukraine to exist.
I deliberately phrased it such that you could not do that and you still did it. Do you know what "willing" means? Defensive wars are not willing on the defenders part...
Willing to fight to defend yourself is still willing to fight.
I think you are confusing the words willing and voluntarily.
The sheer amount of dick-twisting you're performing to avoid just saying "okay sorry you're right I misunderstood / didn't read"
Are you really claiming I didn't read 1 short line of text?
People unwilling to go to war normally means totally unwilling, as in pacifists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism
Now please stop being an idiot, and admit you made a poorly formulated comment, that doesn't mean what you thought it means.
Of course they're willing - that makes no sense.
Agreed because there are also people in Ukraine who are unwilling to fight despite it being a defensive war for them.
Dont forget that the poverty is by design.
Entire states are pushed into poverty and shit education to feed the US military machine.
That’s not an excuse to sign up to be in the military.
Stop the bullshit.
Yes the system is built to proliferate poverty and wage slavery.
That doesn’t mean becoming a soldier for the most corrupt nation and government is their only choice. Fuck that lie.
Not the only, but a very attractive one. You don't need any tools or skills, they will pay for all your relocation, training, food, housing, and you get the TSP and GI Bill.
If it wasn't for the whole war thing, it'd be damn near a fairly good implementation of socialism.
Except for the role of being an imperialist soldier, a cog in the murderous machine. Sure.
You have to know that's not in the brochure or spiel they give to these impoverished kids who barely have enough of an education to read a whole sentence.
And even if it was, it's not like they would have any of the tools to even start understanding the concept after 18 years of living under US conservative media as the sole source of information and perspective.
These kids sign up literally not knowing any better, for the promise of something better on the other end. It's stupid to suggest they're doing it to choose to advance American imperialism after surveying all other options and considering the moral and tangible outcomes of all the choices they think they have at 18 years old.
You're right. It's a tempting prospect when college isn't an option. It really is socialism on the surface:
They'll take you no matter your existing skills or education, teach you discipline and more skills, push you into peak physical condition, constant opportunities for learning, clear opportunities for advancement, and they'll make you feel like you're part of something. Plus you get out and the government promises to take care of you.
(Or betray you entirely. Veterans have such split experiences here, it seems like!)
The rest of the country says "Lol no bachelor's and 6 years experience? Kick rocks and be poor, loser. Lol."
Thanks to all the DoD (oh sorry "DoW" /s) funded entertainment propaganda, play any Call of Duty game (especially the fun ones) and you'll start to get that feeling that to be a soldier is to have purpose, to fight evil, to become something more.
It's freaking dangerous. But heck yeah it's attractive as any deal with the devil is. I refuse to swear an oath to any authority but my Creator, but I'd be lying if I didn't sometimes entertain the notion that I could like, monitor weather in Space Force or something for 4 years and reap tons of benefits.
...But yeah, look who's in charge. Terrifying. I'm SO GLAD I've stayed far away.
Well, except for the part about the people doing the work controlling the means of production.