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Weird to not just say 'yes'. Regarding the tax dollars he's correct though. I think US foreign spendings are based on china and allies are enemies and the need of strategic military bases/puppet states. I mean wtf pakistan has nukes... On the other hand there's happy trading with their declared enemies.
The question is a loyalty test. Its another way of asking "will you serve the Epstein class?"
Israel doesn't have a right to exist. Neither does Palestine. Neither does my country.
Countries don't have a right to exist. They never did. We just respected each other for relative peace.
People, however, do have a right to exist.
So bombs will determine borders. Guess who has more firepower?
Do states having a right to exist means people can't democratically choose to merge their country with another?
Bombs don't capture territory. I don't know how many times people need to learn this.
While committing to the practical it is always important to hold in mind the theoretical. Forget either and we become lost.
Very poignant! 👌
It's the question that's weird actually. Does anyone ever ask if Australia has a right to exist? Does anyone ask if America has a right to exist? It's called sowing doubt, and it's always in this context and it's always the same goal in this current media ecosystem. Abdul is just demonstrating the nature of the question which you simply don't see people do, either becuase media outlets coach them not to, or they're caught off guard by the implicit gaslighting. If you and I had a public conversation and I, unprovoked, kept asking you if I have a right to live, people watching might start to think you don't think I do regardless of how you answer despite how absurd the question is to ask in what we consider civilized society.
But we don’t, we’re a big lie.
I thought we went through this
Fair, that was a bad example lol
This is SUCH a good simile. Bravo! I'm gonna use that the next time someone mentions Israel's "RiGhT tO eXiSt".
It’s not a weird question. There’s no other group claiming territory in Australia. Nor are there any real territorial disputes or territories claiming independence from the United States.
Israel and Palestine have an active disagreement about who owns what territory, and both fundamentally disagree on the other even existing at all. It’s also an extremely relevant topic right now, with Israel being a long time diplomatic and military ally of the United States.
It would be like asking a candidate if Taiwan has the right to exist, which is also very relevant.
Does Canada have the right to exist? How about Greenland?
Thoee would also be pertinent questions to ask. At least to a Republican candidate since the Republican president is the one with those aggressive claims.
People would answer "yes of course, why do you ask such a weird question". He didnt answer like this for a reason.
Its a loyalty test question.
He is a person so, you're wrong. Also not everyone agrees with your bias, especially when you include the appropriate context: "Does Israel have a right to exist as a state that inflicts collective violence and murder on unprecedented scales against a large segment of their population based on ideology and skin tone without consequence?". Does Isreal have a right to exist? As much as any other state, and NO state has a right to exist if that existence is centered on violent expansionism, bigotry and genocide. This is akin to how nobody asks if Israel is anti-Islamic, we're being fed carefully curated narratives to avoid the follow-up, and to that effect I'll ask you: Does Palestine have a right to exist as an independent state and defend itself against foreing aggression? If not, why?
No state has a right to exist.
Does the confederacy have a right to exist?
Does Rhodesia have a right to exist?
Does Nazi Germany have a right to exist?
States are imaginary land borders we make up for governments and those don't have rights.
I know where you are coming from. No borders no nations blah. But what you then get is eternal fighting and suffering. We have to accept the borders how they are to find peace. This is from i think kenia's diplomat's speech on russias invasion of ukraine. He argues, when Africa can accept borders drawn by foreign conquerors through towns and famillies then then you can too.
Not accepting either israels or palestines rights is the cause of all the suffering.
Okay, fine, I accept the 1967 borders of Israel. Oh, is that not enough? Why not? Why didn't they respect the borders that existed?
I think the '67 borders are the international consensus. Im not arguing against that.
Righto then, we agree on that one. It's a shame Israel doesn't.
If you think an apartheid colonial ethnostate can respect the rights of the people it is subjugating and stealing from, you are lost.
Every state was conquered at some point for whatever reason. If you go back far enough we should give the USA back to natives. But where do we put like 100++ m displaced people now? The argument of keeping borders actually supports weaker players.
Israel is as old as 1948, it's not that far back, and continues to steal more of Palestine since.
I see you're just a might makes right fascist. Got it. Follow your leader buddy.
1944 is not that far back on this time scale too. You wanna reroll to this? Actual fascists would be happy.
He's trying to control the conversation. When someone asks a question like that it is often a trap with the interviewer having planned follow up "questions" that make the guy look bad.
What's weird is that every talking head keeps asking that question. It's become a thought terminating cliché that functions as a loyalty test. Any self respecting citizen should just refuse the question in the first place.
I think everyone should agree that question should only be met with "That's such a fucking weird question." and then move on in the conversation.
I think the acceptance of isreals right to exist is requirement to get citizenship here. So answering 'no' can have real consequences if you ever should seek asylum + citizenship
That's absurd and that's even more of a reason why existing citizens should refuse and delegitimize the question.
Let's just say it's part of the 'never again' heritage. Anyway i can work with just agreeing to keep the map how it is and not start wars to change it.
What “never again” heritage? They’re shooting children in bread lines and then telling you you’re the bad guy for finding that to be evil.
The problem is that Israel is not happy to keep the map how it is. Israel has continuously pushed to occupy more and more territory — not just Palestinian territory, but in Syria and Lebanon too. This is part of why "does Israel have a right to exist?" is such a loaded question when it's asked to people who oppose Israel's unrelenting militarism
Which map exactly do you have in mind buddy?
And let's just also say that the "never again" heritage is not the property of any one ethnic group, but of all humanity. Never again for anyone.
Internationally accepted borders. Not including illegal annexed territory.
I too have problems with our interpretation of never again.
Israel only has internationally accepted borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Israel has as much right to exist as any country. None.
I mean presumably that's because "yes" isn't the answer to that question.
No, he's right to call out what a fucking ridiculous question it is.
Yeah that too, but it's because the answer is "no" that he feels the need to justify it/question the assumptions behind the question. Someone who thinks Israel has a right to exist (ew) would find the question perfectly valid.
Valid questions can have no as an answer though.
True, but this question in particular is a leading question meant to guilt the other side into saying "yes," like Israel is analogous to trans people.
The answer is no, not yes. They dont. They can go to hell.
The only right israel has is to suck my dick like all the other genocidal nations in this shitty world.