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Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has urged Spain to tighten border controls after tens of thousands of migrants entered the Spanish enclave of Ceuta, saying Madrid must follow Warsaw’s example “if Schengen is to survive.”

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[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

The crisis has reopened one of Europe’s most politically divisive debates, more than a decade after over a million people, many fleeing the war in Syria, arrived on the continent during the 2015 migration crisis.

There are some estimates we'll see something like 1.5 billion climate refugees until 2050, but that might be overblown and globally. But still the numbers will explode for Europe until the rest of the century.

Unlike the USA, many EU countries have much higher population density. It would be hard to physically absorb such scales. And there certainly won't be a political will by the people to accommodate as many as possible. I'd love an effort to build ultra high density metropolis's for some kind of post scarcity living for millions, but that seems unlikely. And an unwillingness to address this makes the rise of fascist parties in Europe pretty much inevitable.

As long as there is prosperity and a positive outlook for the future, populations are generally quite fine with things, but that is not the case any more. We have something like 6% Muslim population (only a quarter practicing though) and millions of Ukrainian refugees in the EU. For most people this is already too much.

Ultimately climate change means genocide and we haven't really done shit. These refugees are only the first waves.

[-] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 17 hours ago

I’d love an effort to build ultra high density metropolis’s for some kind of post scarcity living for millions, but that seems unlikely.

There will never be post scarcity. AI will take any available resources. If you want such a structure, you can start building now.

Would you try to influence culture or would you accept whatever raw market mechanisms create?

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

Well that is the most likely outcome, unless we get extremely lucky.

Because influencing culture requires power and we the 99% don't have any. Mostly I'm interested in understanding why and what is going to happen. I'm like a /popcornCommunist

[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago

interested in understanding why and what is going to happen.

Once you understand you do have the power to influence.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

Uno reverse card: If you believe that, you don't understand enough yet.

You need political power, wealth (economic power) or influence (cult and followers) or military power to influence people. And then it becomes a question of power imbalance - billionaires and governments can vastly outspend our organizing efforts and have more powerful tools (= high IQ specialists) at their disposal. They developed strategies and technology to combat democratic organization over the past decades.

It's a numbers game: 10 motivated, enlightened people empowered with the power of friendship will never beat 1000 professional dumbass soldiers. That is the big liberal lie.

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