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[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 35 points 22 hours ago

150k in like NY, SD, LA, SF. Maybe closer to 60k in Beckley WV. Cost of living and taxes aren't the same everywhere.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Arguably, more rural schools or those in lower income areas should be paying proportionally better for teachers, to attract talent that would otherwise have no interest in being in that area. Those schools tend to be where students and their families have little or no say about what districts they are in, as they use regional magnet schools that cater to multiple small towns. They’d have to completely upend everything and move a substantial distance to have options urban folks take largely for granted. My town has two public and three private school systems, for example, and its only moderately urban. Where I grew up, one school district serviced 1/4 of the county.

Currently the rural districts pay nearly nothing and its lower than other places which also pay nearly nothing, so they get the worst of the worst educators who can’t find better and it keeps everyone’s wages depressed generationally.

But social mobility is a dream of that past that’s long since dead and buried anyway.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

It depends on circumstances, you're assuming a scenario vs the scenario of a local who went to a good university and wants to stay in their small town. Ideally things are left up to the decision of each community and school board. Like if they want to commit a particular percentage of the funds to teachers pay to attract a greater talent then that's a decision they can make. My argument is mostly that at minimum teachers should make a decent living wage in respect to the local market. 60k in a rural town in Mississippi, Montana, or West Virginia isn't the same as 60k in NYC, SF, LA, DC and so on as the default minimum.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

NYC teachers max out at about $124,000 after 15+ years and if they have a master's. That's not some huge amount in NYC. At least they get a pension so they can move to Costa Rica after they retire and live somewhat comfortably.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That's livable in that area for the most part. I imagine engineers range 80k to 180k in the same area unless they work their way into management or are in a particular in demand field.

[-] quill7513@anarchist.nexus 6 points 20 hours ago

Beckley deserves so much more than to be a tourist trap where people get told lies about the union

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago

Lol I literally just picked it off the map. I really wasn't expecting anyone in this thread to know that location intimately.

[-] quill7513@anarchist.nexus 5 points 19 hours ago

it's just down the road from me. it's a convergence point between a bunch of mining towns so it's a bit of a significant labor organization point in central Appalachia. it's also where Mother Jones founded the UMWA. also prior to European colonization it access between the Allegheny highlands and the great valley made it an ideal trading hub thanks to the New River, so it holds significance to indigenous rights organizers in Appalachia as well. the fact that the median income is $19k/yr is very much a policy choice of enforcing poverty

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

A lot of interesting information. I've found in personal experience the further west one travels the less connected people are to their geographic location. Maybe also it's an aspect of smaller and bigger states. Like small states seem to have a lot of people with a lot of awareness of the local history and pride vs bigger states it's very difficult to find someone like that. Maybe a third aspect is high traffic states, aka locations with lots of transplants vs areas with essentially none. So by the time you reach Southern California it's nearly impossible to casually meet someone who knows anything about the local history much less has a serious pride or attachment to the location.

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