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With what?
bernie winning
Don’t understand what the wooosh is for, but it’s fine.
oh ok, I saw the majority thought he wouldn’t, but wasn’t clear on it. There’s always someone who thinks bernie can get it this time around. Thx for clearing that up.
Just fyi most people here are further to the left than Bernie, have major criticisms of him, and are skeptical about whether he could have achieved significant change if he had gotten into office.
There's a lot of lingering affection, but nobody here seriously thinks he's going to run or could win if he did
ty for that, I’m still working out the subtle politics of hexbear
Are our politics that subtle? We're pretty straightforward with it.
Sometimes I'm not sure what I've gotten into.
edit: for instance, I have no idea what this person's issue is, if this is a instance of leftists:
https://hexbear.net/comment/3921398
This post is mostly enjoying the absurdity of Trump and Biden polling neck and neck. I'd say it's fair to say that people here don't think fundamental change can happen through elections, or that America is in any meaningful way a democracy at all.
There was a big thread recently by a person asking about Hexbear's genuine opinion on Trump and the consensus was that while he's very funny, he should probably be executed. But also every American president is a war criminal. A few people think that him getting elected might hasten the decline of the American empire, and so be good for the world in the long term
A lot to unpack here, thank you for the recap.
But I am a clueless outsider. It's fine, none of this ruffles me.
thx I'll take it
How so?
We're a non-sectarian socialist space, so communists and anarachists (i think mostly Marxisr-Leninists). Theres some variation because of that, but broad strokes we have agreement here.
oh ok, that explains it, I thought lemmy.ml was the center of that.
You might be thinking of lemmygrad.ml, which is a Marxist-Leninist instance, with which we are federated. We're majority ML, but are a non-secretarian leftist space, with much more shitposting and many endearing weirdos.
Until this moment I thought "lemmygrad" was just a nickname for lemmy.ml. See? Just trying to work out what the hell is going on in the fediverse.
The funny part of this whole exchange is that my original reply intended to mean "good luck getting Bernie elected" to whoever did that poll, which seems to be in line with the collective opinion, yet somehow we got here.
We get a lot of people wandering in here looking for an argument and we like to argue, often extremely aggressively. But we're also cool if other people are cool. Lurk around and see what the vibe is
That makes sense, I'll try to make the context of my comments more clear from here on. ty again
oh boy, I just realized this is a group of people who really like to argue. This is in the opposite direction of my 12-step program, but ok then.
Hexbears are generally a lot more hostile and assume good faith a lot less to accounts from other instances (understandable, but not necessarily justified, since federation has shaken things up, to say the least). Ime the two best ways to avoid this are to make an account here, though that's obviously inconvenient, or to add pronouns to your username.
Make sure you take care of yourself first, if you think posting here would have a negative effect on your recovery I’d rather you avoid this space. Good luck and I’m sending you good vibes to stay strong
I appreciate the genuine questions and good-faith interaction :)
no problem
edit: I don’t understand why that effort is even still being made, Bernie has already endorsed Biden and ruled out running in 2024
What effort
based on the posted poll results (if I'm reading them correctly), people are still trying to get Bernie to run/be elected
The poll results are just net favorability, nothing to do with running for President. Bernie is more popular than Biden and Trump. Doesn’t mean he would win if he ran because we don’t live in a democracy
ohhhhhh that’s the part I missed, ok, thank you
I read that as favorability for the election, not in general.