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submitted 15 hours ago by joelfromaus@aussie.zone to c/memes@lemmy.world

SpoilerProbably at the hardware store picking up more Phillips head screws.

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[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 14 points 12 hours ago

I'm having trouble picking out the differences beyond the dimple. What makes it harder to strip?

[-] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 33 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The geometry of the area the bit slots into is different

I believe the difference is that the Philips bit is kind of a star shape, where the blades and the slots that fit together are widest at the middle where they converge, and narrow towards the outside, creating a wedge that ramps the bit out of the fastner. And with JIS they don't narrow, creating a simpler plus shape that functions like two flatheads intersecting with eachother, but with a pointed tip so its self centering

The dot is there to communicate which kind it is since they look a lot like Philips. I believe thats also why posidrive has the little lines- so you can tell the difference. No idea what posidrive is about, maybe its similar 🤷🏻‍♂️

Edit, I was able to find some diagrams attempting to show the geometry differences (sorry, the side depicting each geometry swaps between the two pictures)

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Note that according to hardware manufacturer Tekton, the differences are smaller than you think and especially the diagrams are highly misleading as they actually compare PH2 and PH0.

Just about the only major difference is the thread pitch and that is only different in JIS screws if they don't have the dot.

[-] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Can you elaborate on what comparing PH1 and PH0 means?

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

The diagram is not comparing between two standards but between two sizes within the same standard. Philips size 0 (PH0) has a slightly different shape than Philips size 1 (PH1) and up.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Jeez... it's like Phillips is DESIGNED to strip. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE IT LIKE THAT?

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 7 hours ago

Someone said in another comment it's designed to cam out, not necessarily strip, in order to prevent over-tightening. Someone else replied that wikipedia says there's no evidence of that though.

https://lemmy.zip/comment/27597829

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 10 points 12 hours ago

I appreciate it. That was what I suspected, but it's so hard to tell from just a picture.

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