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SpoilerProbably at the hardware store picking up more Phillips head screws.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 50 seconds ago

Using well made screwdriver bits, replacing them when worn. Never had a ph head stripped since I started doing that. I've more Robertsons stripped in that time. In fact I've grown to dislike Robertson.

[-] binom@lemmy.world 24 points 3 hours ago

i love how the head in the before picture is ALREADY stripped

[-] droans@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

And half the time it came from the factory like that.

[-] currycourier@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

If it comes from the factory with such pronounced corners, chances are its a Phillips/Square drive combo. In which case you can use a square drive bit which will drive it without slipping (IIRC square drive has similarly high torque before cam-out as torx). There are a ton of different kinds of screw drives though, the phillips-adjacent ones are under cruciform here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives

[-] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 hours ago

Stripped for Your pleasure!

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Don't feel bad, it's the PH design who's at fault. For some reason, someone decided PH should have tapered flanks, so that the bit has a constant tendency to slip out of the screw unless you push the bit into it with absurd amounts of force.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 minutes ago
  1. They're not a great design
  2. Screws are made as cheaply as possible
  3. People assume their drivers last forever. Just a tiny bit of tip damage and they're grind up any screws.
  4. Philips in impact drivers is a sin.
[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 minutes ago

People assume their drivers last forever. Just a tiny bit of tip damage and they’re grind up any screws.

I had honestly never even considered this possibility...

[-] currycourier@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

The one on the right is actually "Pozidriv" (PZ), which is a little better than regular Phillips at least.

[-] Skunk@jlai.lu 29 points 6 hours ago
[-] ceiphas@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I do. proof: that is my backyard

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Nah I'm buying hex screws/bolts or flathead ones. It is a feature, the feature is: the screw sucks.

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

I'm buying... Flathead...

Now see flathead is number two on my list of fasteners designed by dark forces.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 27 minutes ago

It's even worse than Philips for power tools.

[-] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 hours ago

Hex isn't much better in my experience. Torx is great though.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 2 hours ago

Small hex fucking sucks, but cheap tools don't help either

[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago

Neither does loctite

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure phillips head originated for use in screwable rivets and large screws on automobiles where it was implied that the screw action was a one time deal using your hydraulic/pneumatic screw gun on the assembly line.

If you were to unscrew it, you probably should be using a fresh screwed rivet to replace it.

Of course those days are long gone because of superior non screwed riveting and pretty much everything removable in automotive being replaced by hex for the same reason of phillips being easily strippable.

The standard just stuck around because it was cheap.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago

Yes, the design is meant to effectively have a torque limit where the driver will cam out before the screw strips.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago

Phillips in electronics is what needs to die. They're always stupidly small and strip so easily

[-] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 38 points 9 hours ago
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[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 hours ago

just bought a bike from an american dude up here in Canada and I don't think he owned a metric hex key set, judging by how every other bolt is stripped to fuck

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

I'd ask how, but I bought my nephew his first set of tools for his 25th birthday. He doesn't exactly know how to use them (I'd gladly teach if I lived closer) but none of his blood relatives are mechanically inclined.

Still, better to have a plunger and not need one than to need a plunger and not have one.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Just bought a bike from a Vietnamese dude here in Vietnam and Holy shit who the fuck thought it was a good idea to put steel Philipshead screws into soft aluminum.

Unrelated, but making both metric and imperial hex was a mistake.

Edit: Turns out everyone in vietnam intentionally replaces JIS with philipshead because its easier to find.

[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 29 points 10 hours ago

Star drive and Torx are so much better I can't believe they haven't taken over the whole world

[-] currycourier@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

And square drive!

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