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When a person realizes they no longer rely on external validation. They don't care about the opinions others hold of them. It's an underrated developmental milestone. People who seek opinions of others on themselves have not achieved this yet.
Most people never achieve this though. A good example is the charity test. You do something good and kind to help someone, even something small like make them a cup of tea, but they hate it and pour it down the sink.
I get what you’re saying, but external validation is how most primates ensure they’re being good members and stewards of their communities. This is important social behavior. It shouldn’t supersede one’s own values though.
I feel this completely BUT I just wanted to add that there is a component of delusion that can get ignored when you don't respond to any external feedback. Just because I think something about myself, doesn't make it true. And it doesn't make it true every single time. I'm a doctor, and I care about my patients and I try to go out of my way to make sure they get the things they need. But at the same time, I'm not perfect and I definitely have days when I'm only capable of the bare minimum. If someone catches me on those days, they might call me lazy. I'm not lazy, but for that person on that day, maybe I was. I just have to accept that is what someone's experience of me is, and try to do better as much as I am capable.
I respect all people who become doctors. My uncle was a doctor. It takes a special type of person to make it that far in life.
Steering your own ship is a huge part of adulthood.
I'd say we all enjoy recognition from others, when it happens. But having different internal motivations, rather than seeking recognition, is what makes a fully actualised person.
Remove ads from your life, no more keeping up with the Joneses, less vicarious living through series and franchises, and more hands on experiences, can help with growth and having 'substance'.
I agree
I guess that's kind of what I was trying to press with the example I was giving.
I don't need external validation, because I've never had it.. it's like you can live your whole life without adding spices to your food and you could just know what tastes good.
I really sometimes wish I had a bit more space to figure myself out and develop a strong identity like that. I was raised in a pretty strict but loving situation where I was constantly trying to gain my parents' approval.
Maybe to prove I didn't need so much correction and lecturing all the time.
Many of my friends developed better skills and aptitudes maybe because they didn't constantly feel the conflict of needing that approval. I wish I could've been single-mindedly obsessed with making art and games back then instead of ruminating on cognitive dissonance.
ADHD didn't help: along with all the learning struggles, you get real sensitive to rejection and try to avoid it at all costs.
I agree