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I'm not really in a good place right now or I guess I haven't been for a few years.

I've just been reflecting today on all the things that I haven't been doing and wondering if some specific things would have happened in my past to me maybe I would have been able to do things differently.. like I'm reflecting on my friends and how they develop their sense of self-worth and identity I'm just realizing so many things just didn't really ever happen to me and I'm just wondering what those things could possibly have been.

Like for example I have absolutely no doubt that I'm a great programmer and I deserve all of the things I have in my life because of it. I've work hard and created cool things and gotten jobs and been promoted so I have absolutely no doubt in my professional abilities.

And like I know I'm attractive cuz I'm tall and young and I look good and I take care of myself.. but no one's ever told me that.. like in the way that my friends have been told. Like in the way that would cause a friend to come up to me and ask for emotional advice about their relationship and they tell me their partner finds them attractive but they don't think they're attractive, I've never gotten to that.

That's the kind of I guess niche developmental milestones or mile-pebbles that are healthy to go through that I'm asking about.

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[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago

When a person realizes they no longer rely on external validation. They don't care about the opinions others hold of them. It's an underrated developmental milestone. People who seek opinions of others on themselves have not achieved this yet.

[-] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 2 hours ago

Most people never achieve this though. A good example is the charity test. You do something good and kind to help someone, even something small like make them a cup of tea, but they hate it and pour it down the sink.

  • If you feel angry that they "wasted your kindness and effort" or disrespected you, you still depend on their reaction on some level.
  • If you are still satisfied and happy, that's freedom. The whole act of kindness was the giving of the tea with good intentions, even if they disliked it. You take the feedback for next time so they enjoy it more.
  • If you keep making multiple tea for them until they like it, with no joy in your heart, you're a slave, and the other person controls you.
[-] theherk@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I get what you’re saying, but external validation is how most primates ensure they’re being good members and stewards of their communities. This is important social behavior. It shouldn’t supersede one’s own values though.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 5 points 9 hours ago

I feel this completely BUT I just wanted to add that there is a component of delusion that can get ignored when you don't respond to any external feedback. Just because I think something about myself, doesn't make it true. And it doesn't make it true every single time. I'm a doctor, and I care about my patients and I try to go out of my way to make sure they get the things they need. But at the same time, I'm not perfect and I definitely have days when I'm only capable of the bare minimum. If someone catches me on those days, they might call me lazy. I'm not lazy, but for that person on that day, maybe I was. I just have to accept that is what someone's experience of me is, and try to do better as much as I am capable.

[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I respect all people who become doctors. My uncle was a doctor. It takes a special type of person to make it that far in life.

[-] ace_garp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Steering your own ship is a huge part of adulthood.

I'd say we all enjoy recognition from others, when it happens. But having different internal motivations, rather than seeking recognition, is what makes a fully actualised person.

Remove ads from your life, no more keeping up with the Joneses, less vicarious living through series and franchises, and more hands on experiences, can help with growth and having 'substance'.

[-] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

I guess that's kind of what I was trying to press with the example I was giving.

I don't need external validation, because I've never had it.. it's like you can live your whole life without adding spices to your food and you could just know what tastes good.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

I really sometimes wish I had a bit more space to figure myself out and develop a strong identity like that. I was raised in a pretty strict but loving situation where I was constantly trying to gain my parents' approval.

Maybe to prove I didn't need so much correction and lecturing all the time.

Many of my friends developed better skills and aptitudes maybe because they didn't constantly feel the conflict of needing that approval. I wish I could've been single-mindedly obsessed with making art and games back then instead of ruminating on cognitive dissonance.

ADHD didn't help: along with all the learning struggles, you get real sensitive to rejection and try to avoid it at all costs.

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