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[-] x0x7@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

And yet when people tried to point this out earlier, they were called conspiracy theorists. There are false conspiracy theories and true conspiracy theories. That's just how theories work. The ones that espouse true theories are then denigrated for seeing things faster than you.

This is why labeling something a conspiracy theory is not a useful way to dismiss an idea. The dismissal is only right half the time. And the other half you are missing something important, or refusing to believe something without looking into it. Instead, more correct is to critically assess what is true and false and not what is a conspiracy theory and not a conspiracy theory. It's more work but it's also more correct.

Who prefers the term "conspiracy theory" to be a shortcut for claiming an idea is false? A: People involved in actual conspiracies.

Also, people who use that pattern to claim something is false just generally struggle with English. Conspiracy != Conspiracy theory != False. But a common trope of a useful idiot is to claim something is false because it's just a conspiracy. And a shocking number of people take that argument seriously. Despite the fact that this person can hardly differencial aspects in the English language, much less develop useful anticipation of how the powerful will strategize, or worse, comprehensively determine without evidence what is not possible there.

If you discuss an idea of what powerful people will do, you are technically engaging with conspiracy theory. And we can't be having any of that!

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Its also worthy of note that you need not refer to them as conspiracy theories if they are openly discussed by the conspirators and/or there is direct record of them happening or having happened. They're just conspiracies then.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Easy fix, just don't talk about what you know to random people. :)

It's like trying to sell icecream to people who hate icecream. Also, I certainly didnt learn about these things from someones comment on the internet. It was just watching world events like 9/11 and not being a complete moron believing the official story. :)

Then I got interested, found lots of good documentaries. YouTube used to be full of very good ones before they deleted them. I was very interested in that stuff.

Now the world is very different and people are seeing evil openly in the white house even. But it was very different back then.

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