▲ 532 ▼ To cosmic shreds, I say! (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 71 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 89 points 3 months ago (23 children) First wish was to repeal Bernoulli's principle The second was doubling the mass of a photon permalink fedilink source hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] DevDave@piefed.social 26 points 3 months ago (10 children) What would that do to a star's interior? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Fermion@feddit.nl 46 points 3 months ago (4 children) 2 * 0 = 0 Doubling the mass of photons is no change. Repealing Bournoulli's principle requires changing how kinetic collisions of molecules translates into bulk measurables like pressure and density. There's no way to predict what that does without first specifying more about what changes are made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children) Just pour salt on the universe and make it turn inside out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) This creates a white hole, and also destroys the universe. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago So what is it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) [note: I thought the OP said "proton"] Best case? atoms shrink slightly and some changes to how chemistry works Realistic case? The change in nuclear binding energies renders protons unstable, making many elements unstable or radioactive. All matter suddenly becomes much heavier, changing gravity and internal pressure, which in turn disrupts stellar and planetary structures. Fusion reactions depend on precise mass differences between particles, which may alter how stars generate energy, or completely prevent them from forming altogether. Additionally, since proton mass is tied to the strong nuclear force, it will fundamentally alter physics, and it's likely that protons will decay into neutrons, preventing atoms from existing at all. The first wish would affect how fluids act under pressure, including how our blood would move throughout our bodies. Depending on the exact effects, the wisher may not even get the chance to make the second wish because their blood would either stop moving, or they would drop to ground as every capillary in their body ruptures causing an immediate loss of blood pressure, quickly followed by loss of consciousness and then death. IF they live long enough to make the second wish, then they probably wouldn't live long enough to make the third. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ratio_Tile@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) That's neat, but he said photon, as in the light particle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Wow, I totally missed that. I need to start wearing my glasses🤦♂️ I must have just assumed proton, since photons have zero rest mass and doubling that wouldn't change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 10 points 3 months ago The photons from the h must have been delayed due to their mass doubling. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SilentKnight1369@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Its turns the universe into a nuke... permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago Bah. Give photons the same charge as electrons. That outta show those SOBs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakylla@jlai.lu 6 points 3 months ago (6 children) Switch all protons and neutrons of the universe Set PI = 3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children) Who says pi has to be a constant at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago Go ahead and sign up for a non-euclidean geometry course. Constant pi assumes flat geometry, and I'm ok with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Woah, that would be trippy permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Pi can be equal to whatever you want, as long as you’re using a number base that accounts for it. Pi is only an irrational number because base-10 is a rational base. You could create a number base that sets pi equal to 1, if you wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xzinik@feddit.cl 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) what if i make a base pi system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* That’s exactly my point. A base pi system would have pi equal to 1. In a base pi number system, a circle with a radius of 1 would have a circumference of 10. A radius of 10 would be a circumference of 100. Etc… Pi (and the relationship between a circle’s radius and circumference) only normally requires complex math because base 10 is a rational number base. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wieson@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago Make Binomi a real renaissance Italian mathematician, so that we can finally know who came up with the binomial formulas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) Any chance this is one of those situations where granting the first wish would kill you before you could make the second wish? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago Nah, except if you are in a plane Although I am not sure if anything in the human body relies on the big berni, but if not you are golden permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 1 point 3 months ago Photons don't have mass tho permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DevDave@piefed.social 26 points 3 months ago (10 children) What would that do to a star's interior? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Fermion@feddit.nl 46 points 3 months ago (4 children) 2 * 0 = 0 Doubling the mass of photons is no change. Repealing Bournoulli's principle requires changing how kinetic collisions of molecules translates into bulk measurables like pressure and density. There's no way to predict what that does without first specifying more about what changes are made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children) Just pour salt on the universe and make it turn inside out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) This creates a white hole, and also destroys the universe. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago So what is it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) [note: I thought the OP said "proton"] Best case? atoms shrink slightly and some changes to how chemistry works Realistic case? The change in nuclear binding energies renders protons unstable, making many elements unstable or radioactive. All matter suddenly becomes much heavier, changing gravity and internal pressure, which in turn disrupts stellar and planetary structures. Fusion reactions depend on precise mass differences between particles, which may alter how stars generate energy, or completely prevent them from forming altogether. Additionally, since proton mass is tied to the strong nuclear force, it will fundamentally alter physics, and it's likely that protons will decay into neutrons, preventing atoms from existing at all. The first wish would affect how fluids act under pressure, including how our blood would move throughout our bodies. Depending on the exact effects, the wisher may not even get the chance to make the second wish because their blood would either stop moving, or they would drop to ground as every capillary in their body ruptures causing an immediate loss of blood pressure, quickly followed by loss of consciousness and then death. IF they live long enough to make the second wish, then they probably wouldn't live long enough to make the third. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ratio_Tile@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) That's neat, but he said photon, as in the light particle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Wow, I totally missed that. I need to start wearing my glasses🤦♂️ I must have just assumed proton, since photons have zero rest mass and doubling that wouldn't change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 10 points 3 months ago The photons from the h must have been delayed due to their mass doubling. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SilentKnight1369@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Its turns the universe into a nuke... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 46 points 3 months ago (4 children) 2 * 0 = 0 Doubling the mass of photons is no change. Repealing Bournoulli's principle requires changing how kinetic collisions of molecules translates into bulk measurables like pressure and density. There's no way to predict what that does without first specifying more about what changes are made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children) Just pour salt on the universe and make it turn inside out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) This creates a white hole, and also destroys the universe. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago So what is it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children) Just pour salt on the universe and make it turn inside out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) This creates a white hole, and also destroys the universe. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago So what is it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) This creates a white hole, and also destroys the universe. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago So what is it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) [note: I thought the OP said "proton"] Best case? atoms shrink slightly and some changes to how chemistry works Realistic case? The change in nuclear binding energies renders protons unstable, making many elements unstable or radioactive. All matter suddenly becomes much heavier, changing gravity and internal pressure, which in turn disrupts stellar and planetary structures. Fusion reactions depend on precise mass differences between particles, which may alter how stars generate energy, or completely prevent them from forming altogether. Additionally, since proton mass is tied to the strong nuclear force, it will fundamentally alter physics, and it's likely that protons will decay into neutrons, preventing atoms from existing at all. The first wish would affect how fluids act under pressure, including how our blood would move throughout our bodies. Depending on the exact effects, the wisher may not even get the chance to make the second wish because their blood would either stop moving, or they would drop to ground as every capillary in their body ruptures causing an immediate loss of blood pressure, quickly followed by loss of consciousness and then death. IF they live long enough to make the second wish, then they probably wouldn't live long enough to make the third. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ratio_Tile@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) That's neat, but he said photon, as in the light particle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Wow, I totally missed that. I need to start wearing my glasses🤦♂️ I must have just assumed proton, since photons have zero rest mass and doubling that wouldn't change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 10 points 3 months ago The photons from the h must have been delayed due to their mass doubling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ratio_Tile@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) That's neat, but he said photon, as in the light particle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Wow, I totally missed that. I need to start wearing my glasses🤦♂️ I must have just assumed proton, since photons have zero rest mass and doubling that wouldn't change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 10 points 3 months ago The photons from the h must have been delayed due to their mass doubling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Wow, I totally missed that. I need to start wearing my glasses🤦♂️ I must have just assumed proton, since photons have zero rest mass and doubling that wouldn't change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 10 points 3 months ago The photons from the h must have been delayed due to their mass doubling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 10 points 3 months ago The photons from the h must have been delayed due to their mass doubling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SilentKnight1369@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Its turns the universe into a nuke... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago Bah. Give photons the same charge as electrons. That outta show those SOBs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakylla@jlai.lu 6 points 3 months ago (6 children) Switch all protons and neutrons of the universe Set PI = 3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children) Who says pi has to be a constant at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago Go ahead and sign up for a non-euclidean geometry course. Constant pi assumes flat geometry, and I'm ok with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Woah, that would be trippy permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Pi can be equal to whatever you want, as long as you’re using a number base that accounts for it. Pi is only an irrational number because base-10 is a rational base. You could create a number base that sets pi equal to 1, if you wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xzinik@feddit.cl 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) what if i make a base pi system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* That’s exactly my point. A base pi system would have pi equal to 1. In a base pi number system, a circle with a radius of 1 would have a circumference of 10. A radius of 10 would be a circumference of 100. Etc… Pi (and the relationship between a circle’s radius and circumference) only normally requires complex math because base 10 is a rational number base. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children) Who says pi has to be a constant at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago Go ahead and sign up for a non-euclidean geometry course. Constant pi assumes flat geometry, and I'm ok with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Woah, that would be trippy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago Go ahead and sign up for a non-euclidean geometry course. Constant pi assumes flat geometry, and I'm ok with that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Woah, that would be trippy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Pi can be equal to whatever you want, as long as you’re using a number base that accounts for it. Pi is only an irrational number because base-10 is a rational base. You could create a number base that sets pi equal to 1, if you wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xzinik@feddit.cl 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) what if i make a base pi system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* That’s exactly my point. A base pi system would have pi equal to 1. In a base pi number system, a circle with a radius of 1 would have a circumference of 10. A radius of 10 would be a circumference of 100. Etc… Pi (and the relationship between a circle’s radius and circumference) only normally requires complex math because base 10 is a rational number base. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xzinik@feddit.cl 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) what if i make a base pi system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* That’s exactly my point. A base pi system would have pi equal to 1. In a base pi number system, a circle with a radius of 1 would have a circumference of 10. A radius of 10 would be a circumference of 100. Etc… Pi (and the relationship between a circle’s radius and circumference) only normally requires complex math because base 10 is a rational number base. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* That’s exactly my point. A base pi system would have pi equal to 1. In a base pi number system, a circle with a radius of 1 would have a circumference of 10. A radius of 10 would be a circumference of 100. Etc… Pi (and the relationship between a circle’s radius and circumference) only normally requires complex math because base 10 is a rational number base. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wieson@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago Make Binomi a real renaissance Italian mathematician, so that we can finally know who came up with the binomial formulas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) Any chance this is one of those situations where granting the first wish would kill you before you could make the second wish? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago Nah, except if you are in a plane Although I am not sure if anything in the human body relies on the big berni, but if not you are golden permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago Nah, except if you are in a plane Although I am not sure if anything in the human body relies on the big berni, but if not you are golden permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@retrofed.com 1 point 3 months ago Photons don't have mass tho permalink fedilink source parent