▲ 143 ▼ John Cusack calls out Jerry Seinfeld for saying that Palestine "doesn't exist" (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago* by dead@hexbear.net to c/popularculture@hexbear.net 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://xcancel.com/johncusack/status/2065637884833525800#m https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-condemns-jerry-seinfelds-racist-denial-of-palestinian-existence-calls-for-hollywood-to-speak-out/
[+] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] dead@hexbear.net [S] 26 points 2 months ago* (1 child) The show 'Seinfeld' isn't made by Jerry Seinfeld. The show is made by Larry David. Larry David is less belligerent than Jerry Seinfeld, but still a liberal Zionist. Last year, Larry David wrote a satirical essay which compared Bill Maher to being a Hitlerite for eating dinner with Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) David is a Zionist? I thought he wasn't religious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago Zionism is not a religious ideology but there are people who use religion to justify zionism permalink fedilink source parent [–] dead@hexbear.net [S] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Everyone points to an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' titled 'Palestinian Chicken'. Season 8 Episode 3. The episode portrays Palestinian people as being inherently antisemitic. Is the episode suppose to be satirical, like making fun of how Zionists portray Palestinian people? I don't know. Based on online review, Zionists seem to really like the episode and agree with it. Larry David has not made any statement on the Gaza Genocide of the past 2+ years. Larry David has not condemned Jerry Seinfeld. Larry David has never traveled to Israel, at least not in public record. Jerry Seinfeld has traveled to Israel, many times. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were photographed together at NBA Finals Game 4 on June 10 2026. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7357390/2026/06/13/nba-finals-seinfeld-larry-david-meme/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Both of them are unfunny pieces of shit and both of their shows are the opposite of comedy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugupu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago larry david is a funny piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (3 children) Seinfeld, the Jerry parts suck, everyone watches it for George and Kramer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MidnightPocket@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* Elaine too - but yeah, Seinfeld is just a wet-blanket foil for his zaney, actually funny friends. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Keld@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* Jason Alexander's politics are, if anything, worse than Seinfeld's. Which is amazing given that Seinfeld is both into genocide and a big "Oh noes the woke are coming for comedy" guy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago That's kind of the point of the show. The titular character is a stand-up comedian, but he's a fucking terrible one. Art imitating life, and antics ensue. Same premise as It's Always Sunny, really. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago Everybody Loves Raymond was hot garbage, and Seinfeld at least had the supporting cast and the writers. Shoutout to Seinfeld's agent for making Seinfeld famous despite Seinfeld permalink fedilink source parent [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Given the number of "whaAaaAat's the deeEEeEeal with AaaAaairLine foOOOod?!" jokes I've heard, making fun of Pedo Nazi Jersey Signfell has about as much cultural presence as Pedo Nazi Jersey Signfell himself. This being said, when I watched Seinfeld as a teenager, I enjoyed it quite a bit, and I still quote some of the bits today (especially "SERENITY NOW!"). But I also enjoyed The Big Bang Theory at the same time, and revisiting that earlier this year… I have no idea what the hell I saw in it, it is nails on a chalkboard. So maybe I'd feel the same way about Seinfeld if I were to revisit it, but I dunno, I suspect I'd have more mixed feelings about it than anything: I wouldn't like the bits that are just mean-spirited or Adult For The Sake Of Being Adult, but the stuff that's just goofy? Honestly, I laugh even just thinking about some of the clips, which isn't something I can say for TBBT. Comedy is a thing that's as subjective as it is culturally molded.^[A dog walks into a bar and says, "I can't see a thing; I'll open this one!"] I have to wonder how many people don't die of embarrassment remembering the things they laughed at 15 years ago. An incidental thing: TV Tropes has a page called "'Seinfeld' Is Unfunny" for when a work was such a game changer for its genre that it ends up feeling like a series of beaten dead horses in hindsight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago Re: Sumerian dog-walks-into-a-tavern-or-brothel jokes, researchers figured out recently that the phrase "I'll open this one" was mis-translated! It should have been "I should open one like this," e.g., "this bar is so filthy and dingy that a dog could run one just like it." There was some supporting evidence in the article where the verb that they translated to "open" was used in similar contexts in other translated documents. I wish I had the link, because I have a feeling this one's right up your alley. permalink fedilink source parent [–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 child) Everybody loves Raymond sucked absolute shit. Every episode was the same and the only joke it had was mother in law bad. I agree completely that Seinfeld was even worse. I have never been less entertained than when that whiny hack was on screen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Not entirely true, Peter Boyle was funny even in Raymond. I remember an episode where they're repainting the house and somebody says something to Frank about needing ventilation because of the fumes. He responds by giving the bucket of paint a good stir and then huffing the fumes like he's smelling a pot of stew while making direct eye contact and grinning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Agree to disagree I guess. I hated Archie Bunker at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* He's definitely not the funniest he's ever been in Raymond but comparing him to Archie Bunker is ridiculous and unfair, I hereby sentence you to actually go watch All in the Family permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blakey@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago Yeah, I always found Seinfeld somehow even less funny than Friends, and I fucking hate Friends. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kugupu@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago As someone born in the 2000's seinfeld is imo by far the funniest tv show i've seen, after the first season at least. that's completely subjective obviously but i will not stand for anyone saying it's actually a show about nothing! like yeah there's a bit of self deprecating humor about that in the show but the usual seinfeld episode often has an A plot and a B plot that somehow collide at the end, so that's like at least two things happening an episode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maturin@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago Second permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aradino@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago Where does My Wife and Kids fit into this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dead@hexbear.net [S] 26 points 2 months ago* (1 child) The show 'Seinfeld' isn't made by Jerry Seinfeld. The show is made by Larry David. Larry David is less belligerent than Jerry Seinfeld, but still a liberal Zionist. Last year, Larry David wrote a satirical essay which compared Bill Maher to being a Hitlerite for eating dinner with Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) David is a Zionist? I thought he wasn't religious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago Zionism is not a religious ideology but there are people who use religion to justify zionism permalink fedilink source parent [–] dead@hexbear.net [S] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Everyone points to an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' titled 'Palestinian Chicken'. Season 8 Episode 3. The episode portrays Palestinian people as being inherently antisemitic. Is the episode suppose to be satirical, like making fun of how Zionists portray Palestinian people? I don't know. Based on online review, Zionists seem to really like the episode and agree with it. Larry David has not made any statement on the Gaza Genocide of the past 2+ years. Larry David has not condemned Jerry Seinfeld. Larry David has never traveled to Israel, at least not in public record. Jerry Seinfeld has traveled to Israel, many times. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were photographed together at NBA Finals Game 4 on June 10 2026. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7357390/2026/06/13/nba-finals-seinfeld-larry-david-meme/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Both of them are unfunny pieces of shit and both of their shows are the opposite of comedy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugupu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago larry david is a funny piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) David is a Zionist? I thought he wasn't religious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago Zionism is not a religious ideology but there are people who use religion to justify zionism permalink fedilink source parent [–] dead@hexbear.net [S] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Everyone points to an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' titled 'Palestinian Chicken'. Season 8 Episode 3. The episode portrays Palestinian people as being inherently antisemitic. Is the episode suppose to be satirical, like making fun of how Zionists portray Palestinian people? I don't know. Based on online review, Zionists seem to really like the episode and agree with it. Larry David has not made any statement on the Gaza Genocide of the past 2+ years. Larry David has not condemned Jerry Seinfeld. Larry David has never traveled to Israel, at least not in public record. Jerry Seinfeld has traveled to Israel, many times. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were photographed together at NBA Finals Game 4 on June 10 2026. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7357390/2026/06/13/nba-finals-seinfeld-larry-david-meme/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Both of them are unfunny pieces of shit and both of their shows are the opposite of comedy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugupu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago larry david is a funny piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago Zionism is not a religious ideology but there are people who use religion to justify zionism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dead@hexbear.net [S] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Everyone points to an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' titled 'Palestinian Chicken'. Season 8 Episode 3. The episode portrays Palestinian people as being inherently antisemitic. Is the episode suppose to be satirical, like making fun of how Zionists portray Palestinian people? I don't know. Based on online review, Zionists seem to really like the episode and agree with it. Larry David has not made any statement on the Gaza Genocide of the past 2+ years. Larry David has not condemned Jerry Seinfeld. Larry David has never traveled to Israel, at least not in public record. Jerry Seinfeld has traveled to Israel, many times. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were photographed together at NBA Finals Game 4 on June 10 2026. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7357390/2026/06/13/nba-finals-seinfeld-larry-david-meme/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Both of them are unfunny pieces of shit and both of their shows are the opposite of comedy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugupu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago larry david is a funny piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Both of them are unfunny pieces of shit and both of their shows are the opposite of comedy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugupu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago larry david is a funny piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kugupu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago larry david is a funny piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (3 children) Seinfeld, the Jerry parts suck, everyone watches it for George and Kramer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MidnightPocket@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* Elaine too - but yeah, Seinfeld is just a wet-blanket foil for his zaney, actually funny friends. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Keld@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* Jason Alexander's politics are, if anything, worse than Seinfeld's. Which is amazing given that Seinfeld is both into genocide and a big "Oh noes the woke are coming for comedy" guy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago That's kind of the point of the show. The titular character is a stand-up comedian, but he's a fucking terrible one. Art imitating life, and antics ensue. Same premise as It's Always Sunny, really. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MidnightPocket@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* Elaine too - but yeah, Seinfeld is just a wet-blanket foil for his zaney, actually funny friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* Jason Alexander's politics are, if anything, worse than Seinfeld's. Which is amazing given that Seinfeld is both into genocide and a big "Oh noes the woke are coming for comedy" guy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago That's kind of the point of the show. The titular character is a stand-up comedian, but he's a fucking terrible one. Art imitating life, and antics ensue. Same premise as It's Always Sunny, really. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago Everybody Loves Raymond was hot garbage, and Seinfeld at least had the supporting cast and the writers. Shoutout to Seinfeld's agent for making Seinfeld famous despite Seinfeld permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Given the number of "whaAaaAat's the deeEEeEeal with AaaAaairLine foOOOod?!" jokes I've heard, making fun of Pedo Nazi Jersey Signfell has about as much cultural presence as Pedo Nazi Jersey Signfell himself. This being said, when I watched Seinfeld as a teenager, I enjoyed it quite a bit, and I still quote some of the bits today (especially "SERENITY NOW!"). But I also enjoyed The Big Bang Theory at the same time, and revisiting that earlier this year… I have no idea what the hell I saw in it, it is nails on a chalkboard. So maybe I'd feel the same way about Seinfeld if I were to revisit it, but I dunno, I suspect I'd have more mixed feelings about it than anything: I wouldn't like the bits that are just mean-spirited or Adult For The Sake Of Being Adult, but the stuff that's just goofy? Honestly, I laugh even just thinking about some of the clips, which isn't something I can say for TBBT. Comedy is a thing that's as subjective as it is culturally molded.^[A dog walks into a bar and says, "I can't see a thing; I'll open this one!"] I have to wonder how many people don't die of embarrassment remembering the things they laughed at 15 years ago. An incidental thing: TV Tropes has a page called "'Seinfeld' Is Unfunny" for when a work was such a game changer for its genre that it ends up feeling like a series of beaten dead horses in hindsight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago Re: Sumerian dog-walks-into-a-tavern-or-brothel jokes, researchers figured out recently that the phrase "I'll open this one" was mis-translated! It should have been "I should open one like this," e.g., "this bar is so filthy and dingy that a dog could run one just like it." There was some supporting evidence in the article where the verb that they translated to "open" was used in similar contexts in other translated documents. I wish I had the link, because I have a feeling this one's right up your alley. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago Re: Sumerian dog-walks-into-a-tavern-or-brothel jokes, researchers figured out recently that the phrase "I'll open this one" was mis-translated! It should have been "I should open one like this," e.g., "this bar is so filthy and dingy that a dog could run one just like it." There was some supporting evidence in the article where the verb that they translated to "open" was used in similar contexts in other translated documents. I wish I had the link, because I have a feeling this one's right up your alley. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 child) Everybody loves Raymond sucked absolute shit. Every episode was the same and the only joke it had was mother in law bad. I agree completely that Seinfeld was even worse. I have never been less entertained than when that whiny hack was on screen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Not entirely true, Peter Boyle was funny even in Raymond. I remember an episode where they're repainting the house and somebody says something to Frank about needing ventilation because of the fumes. He responds by giving the bucket of paint a good stir and then huffing the fumes like he's smelling a pot of stew while making direct eye contact and grinning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Agree to disagree I guess. I hated Archie Bunker at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* He's definitely not the funniest he's ever been in Raymond but comparing him to Archie Bunker is ridiculous and unfair, I hereby sentence you to actually go watch All in the Family permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Not entirely true, Peter Boyle was funny even in Raymond. I remember an episode where they're repainting the house and somebody says something to Frank about needing ventilation because of the fumes. He responds by giving the bucket of paint a good stir and then huffing the fumes like he's smelling a pot of stew while making direct eye contact and grinning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Agree to disagree I guess. I hated Archie Bunker at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* He's definitely not the funniest he's ever been in Raymond but comparing him to Archie Bunker is ridiculous and unfair, I hereby sentence you to actually go watch All in the Family permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Agree to disagree I guess. I hated Archie Bunker at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* He's definitely not the funniest he's ever been in Raymond but comparing him to Archie Bunker is ridiculous and unfair, I hereby sentence you to actually go watch All in the Family permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* He's definitely not the funniest he's ever been in Raymond but comparing him to Archie Bunker is ridiculous and unfair, I hereby sentence you to actually go watch All in the Family permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago Yeah, I always found Seinfeld somehow even less funny than Friends, and I fucking hate Friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kugupu@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago As someone born in the 2000's seinfeld is imo by far the funniest tv show i've seen, after the first season at least. that's completely subjective obviously but i will not stand for anyone saying it's actually a show about nothing! like yeah there's a bit of self deprecating humor about that in the show but the usual seinfeld episode often has an A plot and a B plot that somehow collide at the end, so that's like at least two things happening an episode. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago Where does My Wife and Kids fit into this? permalink fedilink source parent